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Thomas Edison

1/26/2011 07:57:30 am

I Thomas Edison, after researching for several days, I still strongly believe that my DC current is far more superior that Mr. Westinghouse’s AC current for many reasons. For starters, I have my house and place of business hard-wired to fit a DC current. Changing it to an AC current would be a very costly procedure. Secondly, The New York Times just came out with an article about a man who had an AC current in his house and when he went to turn something on, it sent 1,200 volts of electricity through him. It knocked him out in four seconds and killed him in four minutes. It also killed his dog. These are the reasons that I believe that we should really try to use a DC current in our country!

William Dickinson (RB)

1/29/2011 08:00:18 am

Hello, my name is William Dickinson, Edison’s assistant. I support the current DC (Direct Current). DC is very essential to contemporary life. Every automobile on the road depends on DC to operate. It is safe, usually found in low-voltage applications, especially those powered by batteries, which can only produce DC, or solar power systems. It flows through wires, which are good conductors, but can also flow through semi-conductors or insulators.
I recommend DC over AC, because AC has been used for destruction and is not safe for the environment. There have also been complaints in small towns about the AC wires taking over the streets, and ruining the landscape. DC is a more reliable source, which I trust better. Many things in our world would never work without it. DC has changed our lives in a good way, and will continue to do the same for centuries.

Char Colesblack (ICE)

1/30/2011 01:16:26 am

Good day! My name is Char Colesblack (ICE) and I’m a coal miner in West Virginia. I am supporting Direct Current. You see, us miners don’t have the highest income and I can barely afford providing for my family, much less give my kids a good education. A lot more coal is needed to generate direct current than to generate alternating current. If you decide to vote for alternating current, a lot of coal miners like me will lose their jobs! The last thing this country needs is unemployed people because then we are put into an even worse situation. Edison generates Direct current through his Dynamos (the DC electric generators). The voltage is constant and it flows in one direction, therefore, it won’t harm anybody. Many studies have proven that Alternating Current is more deadly than Direct Current because of its higher voltage. AC is used in electric chairs to kill people. I know, astonishing! Direct Current can’t travel very far without burning up the wires. So, a lot more generators have to be built near buildings. This creates jobs for people who make generators; and each generator uses coal to produce electricity. That is good for us miners! Direct Current is the only type of current that can make engines run, such as the printing press. Now imagine your life without the printing press! More things are going to be invented using Direct Current. If Alternating Current “dominates” then I’ll lose my job and my children won’t live a good life. Please consider that by voting for Alternating Current you are not only ruining the country, but you’re ruining people’s lives.

Beatrice Jones

1/30/2011 02:52:43 am

Mary Hill (JH)

1/30/2011 03:48:31 am

Hello! My name is Mary Hill, and I am a nurse in Arlington, Oregon. I believe that our country should use Direct Current power, because it is safer and more reliable than Alternating Current power. DC power is generated by using coal and copper, and also by rotating a metal wire through a magnetic field. I know it sounds very sophisticated, but really it’s quite simple; simple enough, in fact, that here in our little town we have more than one small generators throughout our town. I’ve heard people say that we should switch to AC power because it travels farther than DC power, but to us in Arlington, we would rather have safe, dependable power than strong and dangerous power any day. Besides, we live in such a small town that even if the longevity of the system isn’t that much, the power can still get from one side of the town to the other at the speed of light! Another good thing about DC power is that the voltage is constant. We have small voltages coming from the small generators in the hospital, and a larger voltage coming from the large generator at the edge of town. Some may argue that it is too expensive and that we waste too much energy from DC current, but in the small towns of America, we use so little compared to the big cities that it really doesn’t matter.
From the other side of the debate, AC power is extremely dangerous. The wires are usually above ground, unlike the DC wires, which means that a horrible weather storm could possibly ruin the power in the city. AC power is also very dangerous. It’s voltages are so high and concentrated that a man was killed when he accidentally slipped on a ladder while trying to fix an instrument board in one of Westinghouse’s main power plants. While trying to regain his balance, he accidentally touched both a positive and a negative outlet on the switchboard. He was immediately killed, and when people took his hands away, the powerful discharge burned one of his hands to the bone!!! Our patients and many people in the US heard about it, and agree with me in that AC power is too dangerous to use, especially when we need to use it at hospitals. The only bad thing about DC power is that you need to generate exactly what you need to use, and if you go over that amount the rest of the energy is wasted. If you make an effort to do that, though, it won’t be a problem! DC power is much safer and reliable and simpler than AC power is, especially for the hundreds of small towns in the USA.

Lucius Robinson

1/30/2011 04:25:50 am

Hello evrybody, my name is Lucius Robinson. I am the Governor of New York, and I strongly support AC( alternating current) electricity. I disagree with all supporters of DC( Direct current). I beleive AC is what's best for us, because it involves Niagra Falls, which is a huge power source of hydroelectric power(AC). The materials we need are a motor and the river, so it will be very easy. IF we build two big dynamos down by the river bank, then it will send electricity throughout many cities through wires. It will not onlt help big towns, but also small towns reaching as far as Bufallo, Syracum, Schenectady, and ALbany, supplying them all with a huge amount of horsepower to power their houses and such. This power will help them give electric power to canal boats and help electrical engineers all over the U.S.
The power that is going to be supplied by Niagara Falls is 6,800,000 horse power which is equal to not less than a million tons if coal per annum. We should stop using coal so much and switch to AC power because it supplies more power. 30,000 volts are saftley carried on lines. Twenty-four hours a day power can be delivered to cities such as Albany at 330 Miles at $22.14 per Kilowat, which is cheaper than produced by triple- expansion steam engines. AC power is better because it is cheaper and you get more electricity for what you paid for. It sends out electricity farther than regular steam engines and it proven better for us by Westinghouse and Nikola Tesla. AC power will help anyone that uses it.

Beatrice Jones (MBA)

1/30/2011 05:07:11 am

Hello, my name is Beatrice Jones and I am a rural farmer from Sacramento, California in Central Valley. The type of current I would choose for the USA to use is AC. I think AC would be a better choice because it uses more natural resources which have to be taken from the ground in mines, which will employ more people. The means of us generating the current would be through the use of large bodies of water in reservoirs and coal mines will provide energy to power the electricity too. The voltage as said in the article Electricity on Animals by the New York Time where they said that AC used less voltage then DC does and also when tested on the animals in the article AC killed them with less voltage and less pain then DC. I do believe that the article Cost by the New York Times is about AC and though it may be expensive to replace wires and to actually by it AC, I believe that it will last longer and will be more efficient/better for our nation. I think that the materials may cause issues in our environment but if we use our resources slowly we will have enough and our planet will not suffer extremely. As for space I think we have plenty but the environment might take a hard hit by us having to look for the resources and by us adapting with the electricity. The few things I’m concerned about are the environment, my own job with vegetables and fruits and how I’m going to get my product to the other side of the USA. I think that people will start using AC electricity more and more. So I think we should pick Alternating Current and know that I support it as a rural farmer.

George Westinghouse (EM)

1/30/2011 09:31:55 am

I am George Westinghouse and I support Alternating Current one hundred percent. AC should power this country because of the many advantages it has over direct current, DC. AC has a voltage between 1500 and 2000 volts, which is much higher than the voltage of DC. DC has been said to lose voltage over the distance it travels, but there is hardly any voltage lost over the distance AC travels. One of the biggest advantages to AC is the fact that it is much cheaper than DC, which will be useful in large cities. Recently people have said that overhead wires are very dangerous, but AC electricity has the capability to be underground, which will also require less material. Another huge advantage is that AC can use hydroelectric power, which is what powers Niagara Falls. For all of these reasons and more I think that AC is the right choice for our country.

Annie Murphy (SMS)

1/30/2011 10:30:38 am

Hello, my name is Annie Murphy and I currently live in New York City. I strongly support AC current. The means of generating the current would only require large bodies of water and a motor. Coal miners can provide the energy with coal to power the AC current. Niagra Falls is a big power source for AC power. The falls can supply enough energy across the country and reach even the smallest of towns. Tesla’s induction motor is very small and requires little space unlike Edison’s motor, which is about the size of a bedroom. AC power can kill without pain. It paralyzes your brain and you don’t feel the shock. It could be useful for killing people on death sentence or animals that need to be put down because they are sick or in pain.
In DC power, electricity only flows in one direction. The flowing of the electric current frequently melts the copper wires through which the current flows, causing the transmission of DC power to be very hard and nearly impossible. Edison’s solution was to use more bulky copper wires to power the cities like New York. This caused our cities to have the appearance of a large spider web rather than a new, unique industrialized city.
AC power travels at much longer distances than DC. It is also cheaper than DC and uses more voltage. As long as proper precautions are taken when using AC power, it is perfectly safe. It is expensive to replace AC wires, but they last longer because the wires are not made out of copper. You get more electricity out of AC than what you originally pay for.
If AC power is to win, then most of New York will have to transfer to AC power. These days, people want faster in longer distances and longer lasting but expensive to replace wires rather than having to replace the wires more often. Coal will be in demand which will provide more jobs for people. I strongly believe that AC power will live up to the expectations and is the best choice for everyone in the country.

Nikola Tesla (SA)

1/30/2011 10:31:25 am

Hello, my name is Nikola Tesla and I believe that the Alternating Current is superordinate to that of the Direct Current. AC is generated by hydroelectric power which is renewable. The Niagara Falls project generates hydroelectric power with ten generators, distributing 6,800,000 horsepower which can send electricity through small towns and large cities. It has had much success, electrifying the city of New York. DC is nonrenewable because of the use of coal and therefore much less energy efficient. Alternating Current can be transmitted through long distances with high voltage with low current which results in better efficiency and low energy loss. Direct Current though, can not be easily transmitted to lower or higher voltages which results in more electrical lines had to be supplied for different voltages. AC has more longevity than DC because of the materials and appliances used. AC is cheaper than DC and gives more electricity than DC. To Convert DC power from one voltage to another requires a moving, enormous rotary converter or motor-generator. This is difficult, expensive, inefficient, and requires much needed maintenance. However with AC, the voltage can be changed with simple and efficient transformers that don't have moving parts and don't need much maintenance. Also, DC loses much voltage with the more distance there is while AC loses little to no voltage. Supporters of DC have came up with an excuse that AC is dangerous because of it's overhead wires, but what they don't realize is how AC can also be used underground which is totally safe. For these reasons, I believe that AC is the better choice for America.

Henry Franklin

1/30/2011 10:34:22 am

Good Afternoon, my name is Henry Franklin and I am governor of Florida. After my research of both AC and DC currents, I have decided that AC is better for the United States. When doing my research I discovered, AC has a current with a potential of 1,000 to 1,500 volts and that travels with a speed of 15 to 30 seconds. George Westinghouse has bought a valuable copper mine in Washington Camp, Arizona to help with his company. The electric company uses several million pounds of copper each year and by owning his own mine it is saving the cost of copper. Buying the mine will employ about 300 men in the mines. AC keeps miners in business. This current goes underground leaving the ground clear of wiring on top making it better for the environment by keeping people and animals safe. I have to decide what’s best for my state and I have decided that AC is best economically, it keeps miners jobs and it saves the cost of copper.

Annie Murphy (SMS)

1/30/2011 11:14:11 am

Hello, my name is Annie Murphy and I currently live in New York City. I strongly support AC current. The means of generating the current would only require large bodies of water and a motor. Niagra Falls is a big power source for AC power. The falls can supply enough hydroelectric power across long distances and is renewable. Tesla’s induction motor is very small and requires little space unlike Edison’s motor. Fewer power plants are needed because AC power requires less material, like copper, which costs 17 cents per pound. In DC power, electricity only flows in one direction. The flowing of the electric current frequently melts the copper wires through which the current flows, causing the transmission of DC power to be very hard and nearly impossible. Edison’s solution was to use more bulky copper wires to power the cities like New York. This caused our cities to have the appearance of a large spider web rather than a new, unique industrialized city. AC power travels at much longer distances than DC. It is also cheaper than DC and uses more voltage that can reach to about 1500 to 2000. As long as proper precautions are taken when using AC power, it is perfectly safe. It can be expensive to replace AC wires, but they last longer.
AC power can kill without pain. It paralyzes your brain and you don’t feel the shock. It could be useful for killing people on death sentence or animals that need to be put down because they are sick or in pain.
If AC power is to win, then most of New York will have to transfer to AC power. These days, people want faster in longer distances and longer lasting but expensive to replace wires rather than having to replace the wires more often. AC power is the best choice for our country.

Joe Palin (SS)

1/30/2011 11:50:52 am

Hello, I am Joe Palin. Being a copper miner, I completely support Direct Current energy. I chose this because DC has a larger necessity for copper to generate its power.AC, also needing copper, doesn't require as much. This has closed many mines across America. DC needs materials like copper, coal, and electromechanical elements to power it. Copper needs about 110 to 220 volts to transport the energy. The resistance gets larger with the growing length of the conductor. DC gives jobs to thousands of people and its over a wide span of land so its more useful to people not living close to the city. DC power is the best choice for our country.

Jim Pikus (RR)

1/30/2011 12:24:01 pm

Hello, I am Jim Pikus, and I am a government representative from Virginia. I support the Direct Current, for a few reasons.
My opinions are based on research, and are all because I care about the people in this wonderful nation that I represent.
If Direct Current is chosen, then coal will power them. This will make more business for coal miners, employing more people in America.
Alternate current also has killed men and animals. I feel that although there might be some disadvantages to Direct Current, we should not risk the safety of our nations people (whom I represent).
I know that people have addressed the fact the Direct Current has negative aspects just as much as alternating current does. I am not blind to this, but I think the most important thing is safety, and we should do whatever we can to insure the safety of our people.

Francis Jehl

1/30/2011 07:34:19 pm

Hello, everyone. My name is Francis Jehl and I believe that Direct Current is the best electricity to choose. Alternating Current has killed more than one hundred people all ready and has also killed, a circus elephant, and a large horse. I believe if we choose Alternating Current these deaths will continue. Also, DC means of generating is copper and coal. AC has a fairly reduced amounts of copper and no coal used. If we choose this, it will put many hard working American copper and coal miners out on the streets. And last but hardly the least, it will cost millions of dollars for Edison's electrical company to convert to Alternating Current and will put me out of my job. We should choose DC to ensure that people do not loose their jobs and to ensure that the deaths stop for good.

Mary Hill

1/31/2011 01:43:42 am

In agreement to Mr. Edison’s post, I, once again, bring up the topic of another man, Mr. Darwin, who was trying to fix a circuit board and slipped on his ladder, causing him to naturally grope for something to catch himself with. He touched a positive and negative side of a circuit, and immediately was electrocuted by 2000 volts. He suffered bone-deep burns. This, and Mr. Edison’s argument, proves that AC power is dangerous enough to kill people when they couldn’t help themselves.

Francis Jehl

1/31/2011 01:44:18 am

1. I reference to Thomas Edison proposal, I completely agree with Mr. Edison. Not only because he is my boss but also because his proposal is just so intelligent. I think this way because it is true that many people have died from getting too close to Alternating Current and it would cost people with Direct Current hardwired into their home an extreme amount of money so that they soon become completely broke.

Thomas Edison (CL)

1/31/2011 01:44:55 am

In response to Mr. Dickinson’s comments, I have to agree 100% with what he has said. I agree that most of the things in our world have to rely on a DC current. I also agree that AC currents have been used for purely destruction. I also agree that a DC current is a much more reliable source of electricity that the AC current. AC currents, since they run above ground will make the landscape look terrible, like you said. I think that all you have said is accurate and true.

Thomas Edison (CL)

1/31/2011 01:50:33 am

In response to Mr. Colesblack’s comments, I have to agree 100% with what he has said. If our community would switch to an AC current, we would put a lot of people out of work. With all of the unemployed workers in our country, our stock market will suffer greatly. I also agree that by using a DC current, we can save a lot of lives. Not just human lives, but animal lives. I also agree that if we choose AC, the mines will shut down and most miners will have no way of providing for their family. Thank you for keeping our current up-and-running.

Mary Hill (JLH)

1/31/2011 01:53:08 am

I completely agree with Mr. Dickinson. I can speak from experience that without DC power, I wouldn’t live where I do today, and I wouldn’t be able to spend much time with my family. As Mr. Dickinson said, “every automobile on the road depends on DC to operate.” I drove to this small town, and its where I found my husband. I also drive each year to my family in California to help with my mother, and spend the holidays with them. Off of a personal note, many of our patients at the hospital can’t have the care they need hear at our small infirmary. They rely on automobiles, and, indirectly, DC power to get to larger hospitals out of town. DC power and the inventions that use DC power save lives every day.

Annie Murphy (sms)

1/31/2011 01:55:56 am

In response to Mr. Edison, AC power is perfectly safe as long as you don’t play around with AC power. This man was OBVIOUSLY not using safely precautions and should have been more careful.

Nikola Tesla (SA)

1/31/2011 01:58:02 am

I strongly disagree with Mr. Edison. His comments are not reliable because he only gives two reason of why DC is a better choice. I would expect the leader of the Direct Current to provide more information than what he has. I have some questions. How is changing to AC a very costly procedure? To Convert DC power from one voltage to another requires a moving, enormous rotary converter or motor-generator. This is difficult, expensive, inefficient, and requires much needed maintenance.

Beatrice Jones (MBA)

1/31/2011 01:58:56 am

In response to Thomas Edison’s entry I would like to say that even though I am just a farmer with no electric backround I disagree with you. Though the man was killed my AC he was killed because of his own stupidity why on earth would he touch open cords or if they were just turning something on like you said it would have to be open so he could touch the copper inside and he would’ve had to touch both the negative and the positive sides of the wires, completing the curciut, to actually kill him and his dog would have to do the same thing, which is rather hard for a dog to do. So that would disprove your point completely.

Joe Palin (SS)

1/31/2011 02:00:26 am

I strongly agree with Thomas Edison. DC is the best choice for the power in our country. It gives jobs to many citizens and it doesn’t kill anyone like AC. Without Dc no cars would run, so it is very important to our society. I am a busy copper miner thanks to you, Thomas Edison, and I thank you.

Mary Hill

1/31/2011 02:02:32 am

In reply to Char Colesblack, I’m deeply sorry that you live such a hard life. I hope that some of the charcoal you work so hard for comes to us in Arlington. I agree with you, in that DC is already so widespread that it would be very devastating to Americans all over the country to switch it. It would cost people their jobs, as Mr. Colesblack has stated, and also it would cost the National Government and many of the people of the US much of their too-little money.

George Westinghouse (EM)

1/31/2011 02:04:19 am

In reference to Thomas Edison’s post, DC can also be very dangerous.
AC is safer because it goes through a transformer so that you have time to
stop the shock, but when DC makes contact you cannot stop it. DC also requires power station which are extremely risky and have caused deaths. Both are dangerous,but I consider AC to be the most safe while being efficient.

Annie Murphy (sms)

1/31/2011 02:06:50 am

Those wires, Mr. Dickinson are made out of a lot of copper, and since your current flows in one direction, the flowing of the electric current frequently melts the copper wires through which the current flows causing the transmission of DC power to not flow in longer distances. Plus, Mr. Edison’s very bulky wires cause our cities to look like large spider webs! The city of New York has wires everywhere!

Henry Franklin (HB)

1/31/2011 02:08:03 am

In reference to Mr. Edison’s post I strongly disagree. Even though AC might have killed a man and a dog, that doesn’t mean DC hasn’t EVER killed anyone. All electricity has a chance of sending out to many volts shocking the person and killing them. AC is not the only current that can do that.

William Dickinson

1/31/2011 02:10:20 am

In response to Thomas Edison’s outstanding posting, I agree. DC is far more reliable than AC. Many things depends on DC to operate. DC is much safer, usually found in low-voltage applications. I also agree, that AC is very costly and that DC would be the best current for our country!

Francis Jehl

1/31/2011 02:12:20 am

In reference to Mr. Colesblack’s post, I completely agree. DC uses both coal and copper and AC uses little copper and no coal. If AC is chosen then you will lose your job! I am so sorry about that, I will do my best to make sure that AC does not succeed. It is true that AC is extremely more dangerous. I have seen an circus elephant and a large horse die from getting shocked from AC. It was a horrible sight, but necessary for our research, plus the elephant had to be executed because it killed about five other men.

Jim Pikus (RR)

1/31/2011 02:13:00 am

In reference to both Mr Edison and Mr. Disckinsons postings, I completely agree. Direct Currents power automobiles, flow through good wire conductors, and clearly is safer. Because I represent the people, I feel it is my responsisbility to insure the safety of everyone by choosing Direct Current.

Char Colesblack

1/31/2011 02:13:20 am

I completely agree with Mr. Thomas Edison’s view on Direct Current. There was a study done and it showed that AC current had the power to kill a full grown elephant in an instant! You’re talking a lot of body electrocute! AC is a very very very dangerous current.

Char Colesblack

1/31/2011 07:44:23 am

I had a typo in my last post. woops. I meant alot of body to electrocute.

Char Colesblack ICE

1/31/2011 07:46:30 am

I agree with William Dickinson’s wise comment. Direct current does take over small towns. AC has been used in the electric chair and in to kill a circus elephant. AC is a very very very dangerous current.

Thomas Edison (CL)

1/31/2011 08:05:43 am

I am appalled with your comments on this debate, Mrs. Jones! An AC current would be a terrible idea for you and you live stalk. I don’t even know why you would want an AC current in the first place. For example, in a storm, the above ground power lines would probably fall over and cause the power to go out in your house and surrounding area. That would mean you couldn’t get food to your animals and you couldn’t get help if something happened to you or someone in your family. Also, an AC current would be extremely lethal to curious animals that happen to like shiny outlets. A DC would better benefit you and your farm because the stream of electricity world be steady. There would be no need for those ugly power lines above ground because DC lines are underground!

Thomas Edison (CL)

1/31/2011 08:16:51 am

Ah, how I knew that this day would come, Edison vs. Westinghouse. I have at my disposal, many reasons why your excuse of a current world not be adequate for our rapidly growing country. IN your comment, you posted that AC has an average voltage of 1,500 and 2,000 volts. I believe that where it may be slightly stronger than the DC current, it only takes all of about 4 minutes to kill somebody. You said that Dc currents lose their power over a distance, but I say that if it wasn’t for those extremely bulky grid generators every few miles, your current would never even get close to where my current could reach…on its own! Although installing an AC generator into Niagara Falls is an adequate idea, what will you do for the bulk of you power for the 5 or 6 years I will take to build it? How will people in rural places in our country get electricity during a storm if the overhead power lines fall down? Dc has it’s wires underground and will ALWAYS be there for people who need it the most!!!

Thomas Edison (CL)

1/31/2011 08:33:31 am

You people in New York always think that you know how to run everything because your city is so big and wonderful, but let me tell you something Mrs. Murphy, since you hold no real power in this governmental affair, I strongly suggests that you listen to my side of the story as well. In you second paragraph, you say that my wires make YOUR city look like a spider web, but if you ask around, you might find that those wires are actually AC wires because DC wires always have been running underground! I would also like to point out that you said that AC current is cheaper. Is cheaper always better when it comes to picking something that will power the nation? You want quality over quantity! You want accountability over power! You want trust over speed! If you think that in the upbeat city of New York, everything has to be super-fast, and then just remember, who won the race, the turtle, or the hair???????
The last line in your second paragraph is absolutely false! The electricity you are paying for has to be generated, sent to a grid, and sent via overhead power lines to the next generator and so on. So not only are you just paying for the electricity, you’re paying for the government to come to work every day and turn on your generators. In using a DC current, you get just what you paid for, a steady stream of electricity!

Annie Murphy (sms)

1/31/2011 09:33:53 am

Yes, Mr. Edison, cheaper is not always better, but AC wires last longer but are more exspensive than DC wires to replace. All in all, AC power is cheaper!!! I dont want to be constantly changing and buying things that dont last long at all!!! Its a waste of my time and everyone else's!

Annie Murphy (sms)

1/31/2011 09:40:13 am

Mr. Colesblack, if you lose your job, go ahead and be a copper miner! Generators take up space, and no space+ crowded city= not a happy citizen. Higher voltage equals more light to light up the cities, thus it could bring down the crime in the cities!

Thomas Edison (CL)

1/31/2011 09:45:33 am

I think, Annie, that it is not safe to assume that "everyone" is wasting their time with my invention. You may be, but that’s coming from someone who has to do million-and-one things in a single day whereas the regular folk have pretty much nothing to do all day long

Thomas Edison (CL)

1/31/2011 09:47:46 am

Mr. Tesla, I would like to ask you, before even talking about why DC is better, did you coppy and paste some of your work, because if you did, it’s very well done. Secondly, like I have said before to Mrs. Murphy, is the price of the current really the issue when you really get down to the facts? Also, if all you have are useless performance facts, those are great, if you are running a checkup, but you are trying to sell an idea and the people are NOT won over with numbers, we need proof. The only reason that you result to crunching numbers is because nobody from the REAL world has come to you to tell you that AC is really working for him/her. Besides, nobody would even want to get close to you because you are absolutely insane!!

Thomas Edison (CL)

1/31/2011 09:54:51 am

Mr. Franklin, like I have told many before you, yes…it is cool that AC currents are really powerful, but there have been several RECORDED deaths from people touching a poorly insulated wire and they died within four minutes!! Copper miners benefit not just AC but DC as well. We use a lot of copper in our wires so thanks to Mr. Westinghouse, he has not only helped himself, and he has done me a huge favor. Long story short, I seriously suggest that you re-visit the DC current and think about using it in your city.

Annie Murphy (sms)

1/31/2011 09:55:44 am

Mary Hill, you say that you have several generators in your VERY small town. If you switch to AC, you may need only one small generator. Now, wouldn’t that be better that several throughout your town. DC generators are not small! They are ALOT bigger than AC generators. Try not to be so selfish Ms. Hill; think about big cities like New York and picture having a big generator taking up valuable space very mile! Think not just about what you think is best for you and your small town, think about what is best for the country! You obviously haven’t lived in a big city before because if you did, you wouldn’t want huge generators in the middle of nice parks or a beautiful building. AC power kills with by paralyzing your brain and you don’t feel the shock. Don’t you think it could be useful for killing people on death sentence or animals that need to be put down because they are sick or in pain?

Thomas Edison (CL)

1/31/2011 10:00:03 am

Joe, if I may, would you, by any chance, be related to the Infamous Sarah Palin, would you? I would just like to tell you that what you do in those mines, the dirty work, the grunt work, the things that I wouldn’t do, are crucial to making my DC current work, thank you! Also, you are true that DC power gives lots of jobs to tons of people so in response to your comment. I agree with you 110%.

Thomas Edsion (CL)

1/31/2011 10:02:06 am

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Annie Murphy (sms)

1/31/2011 10:02:36 am

Mr. Edison, I am a New York citizen! I used to be a house wife and do a million and one things around the house, including taking care of my two children. Now, my children are at school and i am at work all day. When i come home, i play with the kids and make dinner and do the laudry and sew my children's ripped clothes and get them ready for bed and get ready for the next day! I barely have time to go shopping!

William Dickinson (RB)

1/31/2011 10:04:58 am

In reference to Char Colesback’s posting, I agree because he, being a coal miner completely understands which current is better. I agree that AC is more deadly, being used in electric chairs to kill people. Many people will lose their jobs, if we chose AC, but if we chose DC more jobs will be available for people, especially for coal miners, who can work in the generators to produce electricity.

Thomas Edison (CL)

1/31/2011 10:07:19 am

thats why I'm saying that if in a storm, the AC wires could fall down, then you would have to balance all of those things on top of not having power. DC would go underground and you would still have power.

Annie Murphy (sms)

1/31/2011 10:07:28 am

Mr. Robinson, I agree with you 100% in choosing AC power. I would like you to know that you have the support of many people in New York. I’m glad you chose AC power which is cheaper and safer when using the right safety precautions.

Thomas Edison (CL)

1/31/2011 10:09:22 am

that last post by me was for Mrs.mopey murphy

Annie Murphy (sms)

1/31/2011 10:09:31 am

That wouldn't happen if you used the correct material!

William Dickinson (RB)

1/31/2011 10:12:02 am

In reference to Mary Hill’s interesting posting, I agree that AC is more dangerous than DC, because AC wires are usually found on top of the ground, and have a higher chance of getting struck by lightning, and possibly ruining the power in the city. DC is safer for small towns, and is more reliable than AC.

Thomas Edison (CL)

1/31/2011 10:14:14 am

true dat Mr. Dickinson

William Dickinson (RB)

1/31/2011 10:20:31 am

In response to Lucius Robinson’s posting, I strongly disagree. AC might be involved with Niagra Falls, which is a huge power source of hydroelectric power, but it is very deadly and dangerous to us, humans. What is more important; the wanting of something, or being safe? DC is safer and can still power electricity, just like AC, but is the better one, out of the two.

Annie Murphy (sms)

1/31/2011 10:25:24 am

Mrs. Jones, I’m glad that you believe that AC power actually lasts longer, because it does! It will be easier to “produce” AC power because there are enough rivers and lakes to generate the power!

Annie Murphy (sms)

1/31/2011 10:29:51 am

Like i have said before Mr. Dickinson, AC power can be perfectly safe if you use safety precautions. Humans are so careless and rowdy. This is the time to show that we can live with this so called "danger". People need to be more careful in general.

William Dickinson (RB)

1/31/2011 10:30:34 am

In reference to Beatrice Jones’s posting, I am very confused. I believe that AC is leading to people losing their jobs, unlike DC, which is creating more jobs for people. For example, like powering the generators, with coal, many people, especially coal miners could have this job. But if we have AC, we won’t need generators, and therefore many people wouldn’t have jobs. I also know having AC will destroy the environment, but the DC wires are usually found underground which WON’T RUIN THE ENVIRONMENT, and will be easier to manage.

William Dickinson (RB)

1/31/2011 10:38:46 am

In response to George Westinghouse’s posting, I completely disagree. AC might have a higher voltage, but when testing that on animals, it is a painful and unbearable way to die. No animal should have to go through this. AC has also been known to kill people, because of its higher voltage, unlike DC who hasn’t been known to kill anyone in a painful or disturbing way. You also mentioned that AC has the capability of being underground, well then why is it not? DC is kept underground, which is much safer and less disturbing.

Mary Hill (JH)

1/31/2011 10:40:32 am

in responce to one of Mrs. Murphy's earlier comments, the man in question that perished by AC power with nis dog, that man wasn't using proper safety precautions, but a man, Mr. Darwin, was killed while trying to fix one of your AC power generators. because of an accident, slipping on a ladder, he caught hold of a positive and negative sides of a circit, and 2000 volts of AC power coursed through him. he suffered burns to the bone on his hands, and he was a victim that couln't have been any more safe; he died because of an accident, while taking all the nesseary safety precautions. AC power is too dangerous.

William Dickinson (RB)

1/31/2011 10:46:06 am

I strongly disagree with Annie Murphy’s posting. In your posting you say “AC power can kill without pain”. Well from what I have researched from, AC has been tested on animals (dogs, horses, pigs) and was noted that the dogs were barking and howling in pain. Also a man was killed by AC, and was found that both his hands were burnt, and that the bones were visible. DC however, has not been noted to cause this much PAIN to any human or animal.

William Dickinson (RB)

1/31/2011 10:57:30 am

In Nikola Tesla’s posting, you talk about the good points of AC, but you mentioned that the DC supporters made an excuse about the DC wires are above ground, which interfere with many things, but that they also can be underground, well than why are they not? Many people have complained about the AC wires above ground, destroying the environment; I have no recall of them ever being underground. DC hasn’t caused as many problems and commotions as AC, which makes DC the more reliable current.

William Dickinson (RB)

1/31/2011 11:09:34 am

In Henry Franklin’s interesting posting, I disagree that AC is the best current for our country. I understand, that you being a governor and all want what’s best for you state, but the information you may be getting I disagree with. AC is very dangerous when compared DC. AC is usually found on top of the ground, and has been noted to ruin the environment and leave many towns unhappy. AC may have a high and fast voltage, but has been known to kill people, and I know that you would want your people to be safe, and not put in harm’s way. DC would never cause this.

William Dickinson (RB)

1/31/2011 11:16:47 am

I agree with Joe Palin, Jim Pikus, and Francis Jehl’s postings that DC is the best current for our country. Using DC will provide more business for the coal miners, and employing more people in America. It is safer than AC and still works great. AC is tested on animals for electric chairs, for killing people!! I would not at all want to be involved with such a current. DC is the best in both ways.

Francis Jehl (LF)

2/1/2011 03:13:07 am

In reference to Mr. Dickenson’s brilliant post, I 100% agree. I, too, am an assistant of Mr. Edison. It is true that AC wires appear to look very ugly in our streets. DC wires, on the other hand, take up less space than AC wires would. It is also true that AC is extremely dangerous and can be fatal to most any living thing, including elephants and horses. So, for the protection of our people, it is best that we choose the more “reliable” source of power, DC!

Char Colesblack

2/1/2011 05:33:00 am

Well said Mary Hill!! Well said!!! I agree that AC power can overpower a small town. It may even catch fire because of the high voltage! AC companies should take into consideration every single town, city, and state that will be using their current (I hope NOBODY uses AC)

Char Colesblack

2/1/2011 05:40:30 am

In response to Mr. Lucius Robinson’s absurd and incorrect comment, I completely 100,000,000,000,000,000,000 % disagree. First of all, the DC generators are called Dynamos. The AC generators are called something else. Coal Miners would go out of work…(that’s me) and our lives would be ruined. Why would you send a ton of voltage to a small town if they’re gonna use very little of it? Isn’t that wasting money? Yes it is. So DC saves companies more money and serves small towns. If the town wants a small amount, then they get a small amount. If a company wants a large amount, order a large amount. With AC you can only get high voltages so you end up wasting a lot of it if you live in a town or small city.

Char Colesblack

2/1/2011 05:49:35 am

In response to Ms. Jones comment, I disagree. Coal mines produce coal. NOT WATER. AC current uses very very very very very very little coal. DC generators need a lot of coal to function. So no. It would NOT employ more people. In fact, it would do the complete opposite. You must have read that article wrong because when I read it, it said that AC USES MORE VOLTAGE THAN DC. There have also been many studies done about AC current used to kill people and an elephant. Our planet isn’t suffering anyway. Actually, DC current is going to be used to run cars in the future…don’t ask how I know that.

Char Colesblack ICE

2/1/2011 06:45:35 am

In response to Mr. Westinghouse’s comment, I disagree. If AC has the capability to go under ground? Then why hasn’t your company taken the action of putting them underground? AC requiers quite a bit of materials. DC just uses the generator and copper wires. Coal is used to power the generator. So, this makes coal miners work and we get paid. Please don’t transfer to AC.

Char Colesblack ICE

2/1/2011 06:46:51 am

Sorry Mrs. Tobias, I forgot to put my initials next to my name :(
but yeah ICE is Char Colesblack

Char Colesblack ICE

2/1/2011 06:54:12 am

In response to Nikola Tesla’s comment, yes AC can be powered by renewable resources like Hydroelectricity. But can you mine out Hydroelectricity? NO. you can’t. So nobody would be working for the AC companies. DC uses coal to power its generators, so it gives coal miners like me a job. DC travels at low voltage because it wants it’s users to be safe. If AC can go underground then why haven’t you put any wires underground huh?

Char Colesblack ICE

2/1/2011 07:40:51 am

In response to Mr. Henry Franklin’s post, I am glad that you want to do what’s best for your state, however, I have to disagree with the fact that you support AC current. You see, I , Char Colesblack, am a coal miner. AC uses hardly any coal. So how does that employ coal miners? IT DOESN’T. Even copper miners won’t benefit from AC like you say they do. DC uses more copper and coal. AC DOES NOT KEEP MINERS IN BUSINESS.

Char Colesblack

2/1/2011 07:50:19 am

In response to Mr. Palin’s comment…..I TOTALLY AGREEE!!!! WOOOOHH GO MINERS!!!! I complelety agree! Being a coal miner, It is difficult to find a job and the once you get it, POOF!! They cancel out on you! This is a scenario that will take place every minute if AC current is favored among of the citizens of the U.S. of A.

Nikola Tesla (SA)

2/1/2011 07:51:04 am

Mr. Edison how dare you accuse me of copy and pasting?

Nikola Tesla (SA)

2/1/2011 07:53:21 am

Mr. Dickinson, I disagree with your opinion because some of it is false. How is AC not safe for the environment? DC is nonrenewable because of the use of coal and therefore it is much less energy efficient. AC however, uses hydroelectric power from the Niagara Falls project which has 6,800,000 horsepower.

Nikola Tesla (SA)

2/1/2011 07:53:49 am

Mr. Colesblack I greatly understand that if we switch to AC then you will lose your job. But AC does NOT ruin our country in any way. You have just put information on how you will lose your job. AC may cause many coal miners to lose their job but how does that ruin our country? I understand AC has its flaws and I’m working as best as I can to fix it, but to say that it’s ruining our country is preposterous.

Thomas Edsion (CL)

2/1/2011 07:54:29 am

Mr. Pikus, I am very happy to see that you have chosen to run your fine city with a DC current. I truly believe that the AC current is far to deadly and that it would not look good on your city if you chose a killing power source. Thank you for you support

Nikola Tesla (SA)

2/1/2011 07:55:23 am

Ms. Hill, I disagree with your stating that DC is more reliable. To Convert DC power from one voltage to another requires a huge moving rotary converter and/or motor-generator which is difficult and expensive.

Nikola Tesla (SA)

2/1/2011 07:56:19 am

Mr. Robinson I completely agree 100% that AC should power America. The ten generators at Niagara Falls produce 6,800,000 horsepower! It is also a more efficient way than DC because it is hydroelectric and renewable unlike DC.

Thomas Edsion (CL)

2/1/2011 07:57:39 am

Mr. Jehl, I see great things coming for you in your future because of the choice you have made. I like that you feel strongly about the miners that work very hard every day to keep our electricity flowing. Thank you for taking into consideration the fact that AC had killed more people that the DC current and switching to such a current could SAVE LIVES!

Nikola Tesla (SA)

2/1/2011 08:04:11 am

Ms. Beatrice Jones I agree that AC is the right choice and I'm glad that you agree that AC is the better choice as a rural farmer. The point you made that people are starting to use AC more and more is a true statement.

Thomas Edsion (CL)

2/1/2011 08:08:09 am

This comment goes out to all of the citizens in this fine country who think that my form of DC power should be the current going through the grids. AC is just far to deadly to be flowing through a house because typically, if you have small child, they will want to explore their house and they might accidentally touch it. Also, AC lines look HORRENDOUS up on those bulky telephone poles! DC wires, on the other hand, run underground in an orderly set of wires!

George Westinghouse (EM)

2/1/2011 08:08:57 am

In response to THOMAS EDISON's posting, yes, AC is a bit more expensive than DC, but it is wiser to pay more for an electrical system that will not only work, but work efficiently. Our rapidly growing country needs an electrical system that can go for miles, rather than a system that needs power stations.Our company is working towards putting the overhead wires underground, since they have the capability to be underground like the DC wires, so then people in rural areas will not have to worry. Deaths are preventable from the high voltage that AC gives off as long as people are careful. What about all of the deaths DC power stations have caused? I would say that they are more dangerous than the overhead wires. AC will always be there for the country if it is chosen.

George Westinghouse (EM)

2/1/2011 08:11:26 am

In response to LUCIUS ROBINSON's posting, I completely agree. AC, which can travel for miles, will be great for large cities such as New York City.

Nikola Tesla (SA)

2/1/2011 08:11:28 am

Mr. Westinghouse I completely agree with your ideas. The fact that AC can be used underground is something that AC nor DC supporters do not completely understand.

Thomas Edison (CL)

2/1/2011 08:12:21 am

I have seen this over and over again from you, Mr.Tesla. All that you have against the DC current is that you can get "x" amount of volts from a hydroelectric generator. I strongly urge you to come up with something a little more unique and original than THAT! If you look at some of my earlier post, I can go into detail about almost everything that the DC current has to offer! So, all that i'm saying is that you really need to think of something new.

George Westinghouse (EM)

2/1/2011 08:12:46 am

In response to NIKOLA TESLA's posting, this is completely correct. People are oblivious to the fact that AC wires can also be put underground which is very safe.

George Westinghouse (EM)

2/1/2011 08:14:21 am

In response to JIM PIKUS' posting, yes, safety is important, but what about the efficiency of the electricity that will soon be powering the United States of America?

Thomas Edsion (CL)

2/1/2011 08:15:35 am

So then why don't you do it Mr. Westinghouse, you ALWAYS say that we could put AC underground, so then why don't you do it! You're all bark and no bite =)

George Westinghouse (EM)

2/1/2011 08:16:31 am

In response to CHAR COLESBLACK'S postin. Actually our company has started to take the initiative to put some of the wires underground. If your vote goes towards AC you will be safer in your job because AC goes through more coal than DC does.

George Westinghouse (EM)

2/1/2011 08:17:32 am

Correction: In response to CHAR COLESBLACK'S posting

Thomas Edsion (CL)

2/1/2011 08:19:48 am

WHAT A LOAD OF BOLOGNA!!!! You say, Mr. Westinghouse that you have taken the initiative to putting your wires underground, have you seen how LONG we have had our wires underground! Take that...HA

Thomas Edsion (CL)

2/1/2011 08:20:28 am

we meaning DC current

George Westinghouse (EM)

2/1/2011 08:22:22 am

In response to WILLIAM DICKINSON'S posting, everyone says that AC is fatal to human life, and animal life but that is not the case. 9 out of 10 cases of deaths from AC have been caused by the extra current that is provided when the circuit is broken. And the company is working on putting the wires underground.

George Westinghouse (EM)

2/1/2011 08:24:56 am

Yes, Mr. Edison DC was the first to have their wires underground, so you win for that, but AC will soon reign over DC since one of the only reasons people do not agree with it is because the wires are overhead and dangerous.

Nikola Tesla (SA)

2/1/2011 08:25:29 am

Ms. Murphy I agree with you 100%. I sincerely thank you for that complement about my generator. Also, you are correct for saying that the transmission of DC power is nearly impossible i forgot to touch that in my original post.

George Westinghouse (EM)

2/1/2011 08:26:28 am

In response to BEATRICE JONES' comment, I totally agree. All coal miners will have complete safety in their jobs since AC will use more coal than DC. The unemployment rate will go down since there will be a need for coal miners.

Thomas Edsion (CL)

2/1/2011 08:26:45 am

WILL STILL REIGN? I cant believe that a fine gentleman like you, Mr. Westinghouse, could actually believe that you could beet me in a race of electricity do you?.....You're funny, I like you!!!

Nikola Telsa (SA)

2/1/2011 08:26:48 am

Mr. Franklin you are correct that AC puts miners in business. You being in the state of Arizona would completely understand.

George Westinghouse (EM)

2/1/2011 08:27:39 am

In response to MARY HILL's comment, we are working on putting the wires underground. Even though your town is small wouldn't you rather have an efficient system than DC failing on you and the rest of the city all of the time?

Lucuis Robsinson

2/1/2011 08:28:04 am

In reference to Mr. Thomas Edison’s posting I disagree with your ideas. If your house is wired DC then you are missing out on the power AC electricity can give you. Even though it would be costly, it would be worth it because AC is far more superior to DC. It is tested and proven to reach far distances with good quality electricity given out. Even though this man had gotten electrocuted, all new things have defects and we can fix that. I know it makes AC electricity look bad but we can work harder to improve AC and I believe it will really help our nation and improve our living. Also don’t forget about Niagara Falls. This power source will be great for our economy. It is not expensive and it is good quality and it will be easy to make the power source because it will be a motor and the natural recourse of the river!

George Westinghouse (EM)

2/1/2011 08:28:30 am

In response to HENRY FRANKLIN's posting, I completely agree with you, Henry. This will bring work to many coal miners.

Lucius Robinson

2/1/2011 08:28:55 am

In reference to Mr. William Dickinson’s posting about the AC/DC dispute, I disagree with your ideas. Even though DC is part of a lot of people’s lifestyle, I believe that if we change all the DC homes to AC and change the whole U.S to AC we will advance in new technology and ideas. AC was proven better by Westinghouse. It was tested and proven better than DC in many ways. It is cheaper and will go long distances, farther than DC has ever gone. It helps people in small towns. With Niagara Falls into play we will power a multitude of cities by running wires through them to supply them with power. AC is actually very safe for the environment. Using Niagara Falls will be very easy and help us but not destroy the environment either. I believe AC is a more reliable source, and will help our nation succeed and will help our lives in a variety of ways!

George Westinghouse (EM)

2/1/2011 08:29:55 am

In response to ANNIE MURPHY'S posting I completely agree. The bulky copper wires do make our cities look terrible!

Lucius Robinson (BM)

2/1/2011 08:30:04 am

In reference to Mr. Char Colesblack, I strongly disagree with your ideas about DC current. Like you said, a lot more coal is needed to generate direct current. I believe that we are wasting money on all this coal, because AC current flows longer distances, and is cheaper. We are wasting too much money on coal when we could be getting more power for all this, but for less too! Even though you say AC is more dangerous, we can work to fix it to be safer. All things have defaults when they first start. Again, you have a very negative part of your comment. You said that DC can’t travel far without burning wires? That’s another reason why we should all switch to AC. AC travels very far distances through multiple wires and will help all of our towns. Who has time the time and money to be building these generators anyways? If we get all the people to switch to AC it would be quick and will help everyone that uses it. AC will help multiple engineers, and don’t worry if you lose your job you can work for Westinghouse!

George Westinghouse (EM)

2/1/2011 08:35:02 am

In response to JOE PALIN'S posting, DC is not the only current that will provide job opportunities to coal miners. AC will also provide many and even more jobs to coal miners.

Nikola Tesla (SA)

2/1/2011 08:36:31 am

Mr. Pikus AC current also uses coal so I do not understand the point you are trying to make. Also, AC is supposedly more dangerous but the simple mistakes by people who are wiring is the problem not AC. These simple problems can be fixed.

Henry Payne(SSV)

2/1/2011 08:37:35 am

I am responding to Nikola Tesla(SA) I must remind you the cost of changeing DC to AC. It will be most costly and will be a difficult task to accomplish, but i do like your point about the distance AC can travel that could be very useful.

Henry Payne(SSV)

2/1/2011 08:40:16 am

I am responding to Mr. Edison's comment and i very much agree that the cost is very great and is not a simple task. Also the people well-being could be at risk if they use AC current, because of the danger.

Henry Payne( SSV)

2/1/2011 08:43:18 am

I am responding to William Dickinson. He has a point that the landscape has been reported messed with. I believe this is another safety hazard.

Lucius Robinson (BM)

2/1/2011 08:45:51 am

Henry Payne(SSV)

2/1/2011 08:48:14 am

I am responding to Lucius Robison. I do agree with your point that Niagra Falls is a very large eletrical contributor, but that is one example providing for part of one state. There are many more states. I would like to know other examples that use hydroelectric power, because people can only name that one source and the new dam being built in the southern states. We cannot only live upon these two power sources.

Lucius Robinson (BM)

2/1/2011 08:50:42 am

IN reference to Mary Hill, I disagree with your posting about AC and DC. Ac is better than DC because it travels farther than AC and gives quality hydroelectric power to small towns and Big towns as well. It is worth the money we spend on it rather than buying huge amounts of coal which DC promotes. Westinghouse tested AC and it was proven that Niagara powers twice the steam powers distance with little profit. I beleive that using AC will advance us technology wise and help us become stronger if we give it a chance

Henry Payne(SSV)

2/1/2011 08:50:52 am

In response to Joe Palin's comment I strongly agree that if we do switch to AC power many miners will be put on the streets jobless. Not only copper, but also coal miners and we strongly need these miners.

Nikola Tesla (SA)

2/1/2011 08:52:23 am

I thank my supporters very dearly. Something that has been popping up very much is why don't we use AC underground? Well we've had some progress in putting AC wiring underground which I am trying to help my fellow AC supporters understand. The problem is the expenses. I am not a wealthy man by any means and as you all know. I am trying to get more AC supporters this idea but the expenses are something that I alone cannot handle. Also supposedly AC is more dangerous but are you people forgetting the Great Blizzard? Mr. Westinghouse has accused me of using "useless performance facts", they are facts! One of the "useless facts" is that DC can't be converted easily to higher voltages. For this reason more electrical lines had to be maintained which is wasting money and producing unnecessary safety hazards. In the Great Blizzard, a number of the deaths had occurred because of the LARGE overhead wires of DC collapsing. Safety is only a problem for AC?? I beg to differ! A question for all of you DC supporters who question why all AC wires aren't underground: Why aren't all of the DC wires underground??

Lucius Robinson (BM)

2/1/2011 08:55:49 am

In reference to Beatrice Jones comment about AC, I am 100% in agreement with what you have to say. I also believe AC is better than DC in many ways. It is proven to work better than any steam engine there is and using Niagara Falls will help us in many ways. It will supply us with loads of electricity, but we will need to work on making it safer for people to use. Otherwise I believe we are on the right track with AC electricity!

George Westinghouse (EM)

2/1/2011 08:55:53 am

In response to Nikola Tesla's posting I do not think that I said your facts were useless? Maybe it was someone else

Annie Murphy (sms)

2/1/2011 08:58:06 am

Mr. Westinghouse, I completely agree with you for supporting AC power! You are more than correct when you say that AC travels in longer distances than DC and doesn’t lose as much voltage as DC does when traveling across a distance. It costs about 17 cents per pound of copper and since AC power doesn’t use as much copper as DC power, Ac power is a lot cheaper.

Nikola Tesla (SA)

2/1/2011 08:59:48 am

I'm dearly sorry Mr. Westinghouse i meant Mr. EDISON

Annie Murphy (sms)

2/1/2011 09:01:14 am

Mr. Tesla, I believe that your generator is absolutely genius! It is a lot smaller than the DC generator which means it’s less likely you will see a generator out in the middle of a public park or mall! AC power gives a lot more than DC power because it travels faster, uses more voltage, and it is perfectly safe just like DC power!

Lucius Robinson (BM)

2/1/2011 09:05:14 am

In response to Henry Payne's comment I beleive that Niagara Falls isnt the only distributor of AC current in the area. Westinghouse sends out alot of power to othe rstates through wires, not only Niagara Falls. Niagara Falls uses Hydroelectric power to supply us with the best quality electricity there is!

Henry Payne(SSV)

2/1/2011 09:05:31 am

I am responding to Henry Franklin's Comment. The cost of switching to AC current will be very costly. DC is also ten times safer, but i do like that AC current can be installed underground. That would also be very costly as well. There are a lot more than 300 miners that are working to produce the necessities for DC, and they are going to be put on the streets. I do like the amount of power AC generates which will be a deciding factor in my descion. You have made me think greatly about this topic.

Annie Murphy (sms)

2/1/2011 09:05:47 am

Mr. Franklin, I believe that your advice about using AC power is true. . It costs about 17 cents per pound of copper and since AC power doesn’t use as much copper as DC power. AC power is a lot cheaper and will employ many men to work at copper mines, thus making people who didn’t have jobs before, have jobs! You are very wise to chose AC power.

Lucius Robinson (BM)

2/1/2011 09:06:06 am

In reference to George Westinghouse, I agree with what you had to say about AC. AC will help us advance technology wise. I also believe that after the incident with the electrocuted man we will primarily run the electricity underground so that won’t happen again, but we will improve our Ac electricity, because I believe it will help us very much!

Annie Murphy (SMS)

2/1/2011 09:11:17 am

Mr. Joe Palin, supporting either AC or DC power will guarantee you a job. May I remind you that AC power ALSO uses copper, just not as much as DC power, which is a good thing because The flowing of the electric current on DC wires, frequently melts the copper wires through which the current flows, That is why DC power cannot travel as far as AC power.

William Dickinson (RB)

2/1/2011 09:19:53 am

Responding to Thomas Edison’s comment about my posting, I do agree that AC currents have been used for purely destruction and that DC is the more reliable source of electricity. I also agree with Mary Hill’s comment that some people without DC can’t do their jobs, since many things in our world depend on DC to work. However Annie Murphy’s comment disagrees with my posting. You said that the DC current would melt the wires, causing the transmission of DC power to not flow in longer distances. You also said that these wires were taking over the city of New York. Well from what I know the AC wires are more commonly used above ground, and have been bothering the people, especially those in small towns. AC is ruining the environment, and is used mainly for destruction. Answer this question for me; What do you think is more important, wanting something or being safe? In response to Jim Pikus’s comment I completely agree. I also feel that it is my responsibility to ensure the safety of everyone by choosing DC! I also agree with Char Colesback’s comment, AC is being used to kill people, and is not worth using if it is dangerous! Yes, Mr. Jehl I do agree that the AC wires make our streets look very ugly, and is extremely dangerous and can be fatal to most living things.

Lucius Robinson (BM)

2/1/2011 09:21:26 am

In reference to Annie Murphy, I agree 100%! I am from New York also, and having AC power will help us tremendously even though it will cost more to replace the wires from DC to AC, I agree hey will last longer. Instead of having wires on the streets, like DC did, Ac is able to run underground. So we have our unique industrialized city, with good quality power, and on top of that it is cheaper!

Annie Murphy (SMS)

2/1/2011 09:22:03 am

Mr. Jehl, if I’m not mistaken, coal is used for more than just DC power. Coal may not be in that much demand if AC were to win, but men will still have their jobs because coal is used for more than just DC power. AC power uses some copper in their wires, but the men who work there would not lose their jobs because we still need copper for other needs. AC power is just as safe as DC power! If the wires were to be put underground, AC power would be perfectly safe. When using AC power you need to use safety precautions just like anything else. When working at a factory or copper mine you need to be careful. Everything is dangerous, but people are making a big deal over AC power because some people were careless and lost their lives and people are not well informed about this AC power. People want to stay within what they know and what they are familiar with. The problem is, people are stubborn when it comes to trying something new.

William Dickinson (RB)

2/1/2011 09:22:18 am

As for Mr. Tesla you make a good point, but the use of coal is good because it employs more people, and I disagree with you that AC is not dangerous for the environment. I think you need to catch up more on your newspaper readings. Many complaints have been made about the AC wires taking over the streets, unlike DC wires, which are found underground. George Westinghouse in your comment you mention how the company is working to put AC wires underground, and that’s a good thing, but it should be something that has already been fixed. And yes many deaths have been caused by the AC circuits breaking, but we shouldn’t have to worry about that at all. The chance of death is never an option! Responding to Mr. Robinson’s comment I understand that AC could help bring your state into the future of new technology, but if I was a governor I would want to protect my state and use the safest wires possible, AC is entirely the opposite and will only make things worse. Responding to Mr. Payne’s comment I do agree that I am making a point that the AC wires are ruining the landscape and is another safety hazard.

Lucius Robinson (BM)

2/1/2011 09:28:09 am

In reference to Nikola Tesla’s response, I also strongly believe AC is better for America! It will help us very much and is proven to be better than DC. It will help engineers, electrical companies, small towns, houses that need sufficient electricity… overall I believe that AC is better than DC.

Nikola Tesla (SA)

2/1/2011 09:32:52 am

Mr. Dickinson not all DC wires are underground. People are blowing off the fact of the DC overhead wires caused deaths in the Great Blizzard because of how large they were and how many different wires there are.

Lucius Robinson (BM)

2/1/2011 09:33:24 am

In reference to Henry Franklin’s post, I agree with that AC is a better choice four America. It is proven better by being cheaper, faster, more efficient, and also is helped my hydroelectric power from Niagara Falls. All we need are motors and Rivers to create this. We will utilize the energy that we are going to give off. And if Ac wins, I believe we will benefit from it in that we will advance majorly in technology!

Annie Murphy (SMS)

2/1/2011 09:33:46 am

In response to Jim Pikus, coal is used for more than just DC power. Coal may not be in that much demand if AC were to win, but men will still have their jobs because coal is used for more than just DC power. AC power uses some copper in their wires, but the men who work there would not lose their jobs because we still need copper for other needs. AC power is just as safe as DC power! As long as proper precautions are taken when using AC power, it is perfectly safe. Besides, you have to be safe when crossing the street, working at factory, cutting vegetables and other daily actives.

Annie Murphy (SMS)

2/1/2011 09:34:55 am

Sorry, i meant activities.

Frank Hiscock (KA)

2/1/2011 09:41:12 am

Yes Mr. Edison, I understand that Ac is very high in voltage and dangerous, but what about the fact that DC power can only travel such short distances.

Frank Hiscock (KA)

2/1/2011 09:41:44 am

In response to Mr.Dickinson, what about the fact that AC can go alot further than DC and is more efficient.

Lucius Robinson (BM)

2/1/2011 09:42:55 am

In reference to Joe Palin, there is a reason why your copper mines are shutting down; it’s obvious that Ac is over ruling DC! Just look at all the mines shutting down! AC also gives many jobs to people such as engineers, coal miners, and electrical industries. Niagara Falls supplies our states with so much electricity that in just 15 seconds 1,000 volts of electricity can be distributed far distances for less money than we spend on copper wires and such. I believe that we need to switch from DC to AC because even though it will be costly it will be 100x worth it

Frank Hiscock (KA)

2/1/2011 09:43:11 am

yes Mr.Colesblack , but what about all of the coal mines that could be running more efficiently on AC power?

Frank Hiscock (KA)

2/1/2011 09:45:06 am

i see your point Mrs. Hill with DC power, but what about all the energy that you are wasting using DC power considering all of the energy that you could be saving with AC power, and especially at a hospital.

Frank Hiscock (KA)

2/1/2011 09:46:11 am

Mr.Robinson, i understand you point with Ac power, but what about the dangers for people in small towns with such high voltage.

Frank Hiscock (KA)

2/1/2011 09:47:44 am

Mrs.Jones, i see that AC power uses more natural resources, but what about all of the coal miners that will be out of a job because of the fact that AC power uses alot less.

AnnieMurphy (SMS)

2/1/2011 09:48:11 am

Mary Hill, what are automobiles? (its the 1890's)

Lucius Robinson (BM)

2/1/2011 09:48:44 am

In reference to Jim Pikus, I value greatly that you care so much about the safety of your people, but I am also a governor. I’m governor of New York, and I also value my people safety but also think about what’s really best for them. If you go and want Dc you are going to miss out on what is really important which the electricity part is. AC supplies so much more energy for so much less and it is good quality at that. I think that the only people that will lose their jobs are the copper miner s, but there are always the coal miners, electrical company helpers, and much more jobs that they can transfer to.

Frank Hiscock (KA)

2/1/2011 09:49:14 am

Mr. Westinghoue, in response to your mentioning of Ac's high voltage, think about how dangerous it is. and yes, the wires are very dangerous, and if they can be underground, then why aren't they?

Frank Hiscock (KA)

2/1/2011 09:50:26 am

mrs. murphy, i see that you are from new york, and niagra falls is ac power, but most of new york is powered by dc power and wouldn't it be far to expensive to switch to ac power?

Frank Hiscock (KA)

2/1/2011 09:53:59 am

mr. tesla, i understand that dc power is unrenewable and travels shorter distances, but ac power can only go further distances because of its extremely high voltage which is very dangerous. what is more important, the longer distance and the efficiency of ac power, or the safety of our nation?

Lucius Robinson (BM)

2/1/2011 09:56:35 am

In reference to Francis Jehl, I strongly disagree with your posting about DC. DC is proven better than AC, Being able to go far distances for cheaper prices other than using so much coal and copper. Also we will be using hydroelectric power which is a natural resource because of Niagara Falls. Even though there have been deaths, we are working to make Ac power better. Switching DC to Ac will be costly, but will repay us in the end because it will last longer! There are many reasons why AC is better than Dc and I believe AC is better

Frank Hiscock (KA)

2/1/2011 09:57:31 am

mr. franklin, i understand that with mr. westinghouse owning his own mine it is saving in the cost of copper, but what about all of the other miners that he is putting out on the streets, because even though ac uses copper, dc uses a lot more, making more miners have a job. and if mr. westinghouse has mines and he is giving jobs to miners, how does that cut bak on the cost of copper if he has to pay the miners?

Henry Franklin (HB)

2/1/2011 09:58:45 am

Mr. Edison and Mr. Colesblack, thank you for your advice to research more information. As I have thought about what you both have said, I still feel like AC is better for our country and state. Knowing what I researched, in Arizona he has bought mines to help his company keep miners with jobs. If they use copper they will benefit from the use of AC because it will keep their jobs. AC may cost more but if u want to do what’s best you do what’s best for everyone.

Frank Hiscock (KA)

2/1/2011 09:58:52 am

i understand your point mr. palin, but ac power can travel further distances and it is more efficient, and what about the fact that dc uses more materials and it is not renewable.

Henry Franklin (HB)

2/1/2011 09:59:30 am

Nikola Tesla, thank you for understanding that AC puts miners in business and that I know what I’m talking about when I say it is best.

Frank Hiscock (KA)

2/1/2011 09:59:59 am

yes mr. pikus, dc uses more copper, but mr. westinghouse has copper mines to run ac, and he is supplying jobs for many americans.

Henry Franklin (HB)

2/1/2011 10:00:39 am

Henry Payne, I do agree that AC costs more for it to be put underground, but to keep the people safe wouldn’t you want to make sure they are safe even if it costs more? AC can power a lot of things at once sending off a lot of electricity which can be helpful in some situations. It as well can travel further than DC can.

Frank Hiscock (KA)

2/1/2011 10:01:56 am

mr. jehl, i see that ac power seems more dangerous, but what about the fact that ac wires can be put underground, and that ac is more energy efficient, and niagra falls is ac and a lot is powered by ac meaning that it would also be costly to change everything to dc power.

Henry Franklin

2/1/2011 10:02:56 am

Mr. Hiscock, although DC uses more copper, copper is 17 cents per pound, so if DC uses more it costs more than AC. AC being cheaper and better for our country economically.

Lucius Robinson (BM)

2/1/2011 10:02:59 am

In response to William Dickinson’s comment, we can make this work because we can run AC power underground, unlike DC, which can’t do that.

Lucius RObinson (BM)

2/1/2011 10:04:19 am

Thankyou to everyone who agreed with me!Go Alternating Current!!!

Francis Jehl (LF)

2/1/2011 10:19:10 am

I agree to Ms. Hill’s reliable posting. I have also heard about the man who was killed and burned to the bone. As Edison’s assistant, I take part in most of his experiments with the dangerous AC power. One of the experiments was with a juvenile circus elephant who had misbehaved in the arena and killed almost 5 men. She was sentenced to be executed. She ended up with Edison and I. We shocked her with a volt of AC and she was killed instantly. It is cruel but was necessary and she would be killed anyway because she was sentenced to be executed. If a volt of AC can kill an elephant, I have no doubt that it could kill a full grown human.

Annie Murphy (SMS)

2/1/2011 10:21:15 am

It was very unfortunate that the man died. DC power has also killed people. The great blizzard killed some people who were using DC power. AC power is just as safe as DC power! As long as proper precautions are taken when using AC power, it is perfectly safe. Besides, you have to be safe when crossing the street, working at factory, cutting vegetables and other daily activities

Francis Jehl

2/1/2011 10:22:47 am

In reference to Mr. Robinson's post, I disagree. You haven't mentioned the huge attrocities and deaths that AC has already created. And AC, as you have stated, will save a lot of coal from being used. But what of the coal miners? What will you have them do instead of mining coal?

Annie Murphy (sms)

2/1/2011 10:23:03 am

that post was for Mrs. Hill

Annie Murphy (sms)

2/1/2011 10:27:25 am

It may be expensive Frank Hiscock, but the bulky copper wires of DC power to power the cities like New York caused our cities to have the appearance of a large spider web rather than a new, unique industrialized city. AC power travels at much longer distances than DC, and the generators are smaller and don’t have to be placed every mile around the cities.

Francis Jehl (LF)

2/1/2011 10:28:07 am

In disagreement to Mrs. Jones post, I think you have been fed some false information. AC does not use any amount of coal in it, only a little copper. If we use AC copper and coal miners will loose their work. AC is actually more destructive than DC is. I'm sorry but I speak from experience.

Annie Murphy (sms)

2/1/2011 10:28:18 am

Annie Murphy (sms)

2/1/2011 10:30:01 am

Mr. Francis Jehl, have i commented on your post?

Francis Jehl (LF)

2/1/2011 10:32:24 am

Mr. Westinghouse, I think you did not acknowledge in your early posts that AC is much more destructive than DC because of the increase in voltage. AC may be cheaper but isn't the extra money worth it because of the lives of family and loved ones? I think so!

Francis Jehl

2/1/2011 10:35:24 am

Mrs. Jones, I do not know... but I have skimed through it and haven't seen you post about me :)

Francis Jehl

2/1/2011 10:37:00 am

oh wait you have never mind

Annie Murphy (SMS)

2/1/2011 10:37:30 am

Mr. Jehl im mrs. Murphy

Francis Jehl (LF)

2/1/2011 10:43:42 am

Mrs. Murphy, no effence to Mr. Colesback, but coal miners get a low income as it is right now. If they are denied DC than they will have to quit their jobs. Same goes with copper miners because they also get a very low income. Without DC many Americans will go unemployed!

Francis Jehl

2/1/2011 10:45:19 am

woops yay sry about that... i got u mixed up with Mrs. Jones

Joe Palin (SS)

2/1/2011 10:46:59 am

I totally disagree with Mr. Westinghouse. Even though AC costs less, what happens to the thousands of people that will go out of work because of AC? Will AC protect them? I don’t thing so. Also, you didn’t mention the murderous abilities for Ac. Does this help our society? I think you should reconsider.

Annie Murphy (sms)

2/1/2011 10:47:24 am

In response to William Dickinson, what type of website were you using when you stated that dogs were barking and howling in pain? AC power paralyzes your brain, which means you cant feel the shock after it shocks you. If I'm not mistaken, I'm sure my resources are correct.

Joe Palin (SS)

2/1/2011 10:47:37 am

I have a few problems with Annie Murphy. Even though it can use hydroelectric power do you really see the necessity to use electricity to kill? And have you thought of the cons to your “perfect” AC? Also, AC uses LESS coal so people will lose jobs instead of gain. I believe you should choose DC. Please rethink your steps.

Joe Palin (SS)

2/1/2011 10:48:02 am

In response to Nikola Tesla, I totally disagree. One, is underground wire totally safe? What if someone drills through the wires, what happens? And even though DC uses more maintenance its for a good cause? Tell me how many people does Hoover Dam employ? Think about your country and rethink your choice.

Joe Palin (SS)

2/1/2011 10:48:28 am

I have HUGE problems with Henry Franklin. I am a copper miner and when those camps are employing 300 men, U. S. miners are losing their jobs by the thousands. So, is Ac a better solution? And U. S. isn’t became the leading producer of copper in the world, what will these private mines only for AC, do for our economy? I really think you should rethink.

Joe Palin (SS)

2/1/2011 10:48:59 am

I completely agree with Jim Pikus. I totally agree with you safety policy and I want you to think about AC’s killing abilities. Also, its not only coal miners that are gaining jobs it’s copper miners too. Another point you should talk about is where the DC wires are put. I support you 100%.

Joe Palin (SS)

2/1/2011 10:49:30 am

In response to Fransis Jehl, I completely agree with you. AC is a dangerous power and you should talk about the cons of where the wires are put. I am a copper miner so I earnestly thank you. I believe you should talk about the differences and similarities of how the power is generated. I completely support you 100%.

Francis Jehl (LF)

2/1/2011 10:49:55 am

Mr. Tesla, I have noticed that you haven't said anything about how much more dangerous AC can be. It has killed many things including over 100 men already and an elephant in one of my experiments. Plus, DC uses coal and copper so that copper and coal miners with low income won't loose their jobs.

Annie Murphy (sms)

2/1/2011 10:53:31 am

William Dickinson, give me a few examples of destuction so i can truely understand what your point is. In what ways have the AC wires been bothering people in small towns? DC and AC power are both truely safe. The real question is, do you want more voltage and faster resources, or less voltage and DC power being able to travel only short distances?

Nikola Tesla (SA)

2/1/2011 10:54:51 am

Mr. Jehl, obviously you haven't looked close enough or at all to say that. Look at my Tue, 01 Feb 2011 16:52:23 post

Francis Jehl (LF)

2/1/2011 10:55:42 am

Henry Franklin, I believe you did not mention that, due to such high voltage, AC is much more dangerous than DC. AC uses much less copper than DC does so when those 300 men are employed many will not be doing much work because they will only need to produce so little copper and they will get less income than they would producing copper for DC.

Nikola Tesla (SA)

2/1/2011 10:57:16 am

Mr. Palin I am confused. You say ask me if AC wires underground are totally safe but you are pro-DC which wires' are also underground.

Joe Palin (SS)

2/1/2011 10:58:03 am

I strongly disagree with Lucius Robinson. Even though you can use hydroelectric power what about coal and copper related power and what about the maintenance problem with that? I know there are problems with dc but what are the problems with AC? Everything has some flaws. I think you should reconsider.

Francis Jehl (LF)

2/1/2011 11:01:23 am

In reference to Mr. Palin's intellegent post, I completely agree. If AC should succeed in becoming our primary power than many copper miners, such as yourself, and coal miners will be put out of your jobs. Also, many mines across America will be closed because AC would have no need of them.

Francis Jehl

2/1/2011 11:05:17 am

Mr. Pikus, I completely agree to your earlier post. It is true that AC has already killed about 100 people. It has also killed a dog, elephant, and a large horse. If we use AC I believe that these deaths will continue to occur to your people and many other national leaders.

Francis Jehl (LF)

2/1/2011 11:14:27 am

Mr. Hiscock, I see your arguement but AC has been proven more fatal than DC. Just paying the little extra money for DC will keep yourself and your loved ones from any harm that AC will provide.

Mary Hill (JH)

2/1/2011 11:41:35 am

Mrs. Jones, I disagree with your choice of current. Firstly, you stated facts that apply to both currents; DC also uses copper and coal, and also a magnetic field to be generated. If we switch to AC power, then less coal will be used, and more people will lose their jobs, not gain them, and if you disagree, I suggest you look at Mr. Coalsblack’s dialog just above. About the animals in your article, people have had burns to their BONES as I have previously stated many times, and that was when people took a man’s hands away from the switchboard he was repairing. For many of the rest of your dialog, you point out the bad things of your own current: it will be extremely expensive to dig up all of the DC current wires that are in the ground, and the environment may “take a hard hit” when you begin to ruin the ground that already has wires in it, and if what you are so concerned about is the environment, why do you want to take the chance of ruining part of the environment that’s so important to you?

Mary Hill (JH)

2/1/2011 11:46:45 am

I disagree with George Westinghouse one hundred percent. You said yourself that AC current has between 1500 and 2000 volts, which, I admit, is more than DC current, but is that necessarily better? With more power, you have to have higher safety measures, which may cost more money, and will be a huge hassle. The practicality may be good, the danger is high, and is it worth the potential danger that would hang on your head?

Char Colesblack ICE

2/1/2011 11:50:54 am

In response to Mr. Pikus’ outstanding comment, I Agree 1,000,000,000,000,000 %. Thank you for taking into consideration the coal miners and our lives. DC current employs a lot of coal miners and AC in unsafe and does not benefit the coal miners in any way whatsoever!

Char Colesblack ICE

2/1/2011 11:54:27 am

In response to Francis’ Jehl’s amazing post, I agree! I am a hard working coal miner and I am thankful that people care about the coal miners!!! AC has killed many people.

Mary HIll (JH)

2/1/2011 11:56:51 am

Mrs. Murphy, I strongly support DC current. You say that you ONLY need large bodies of water and a motor? What current would that motor work on? Most likely it would work on a battery, am I correct? Batteries are mainly made with DC current. What bodies of water? It would have to be moving, so wouldn’t you need a waterfall? There’s only one big enough to make enough current for even a portion of the country, Niagra Falls. Another thing is that you mentioned that DC wires make a “large spider web rather than a new, unique, industrialized city.” I must correct you in that AC WIRES are the “more bulky copper wires” you see above your city. DC wires are conveniently located below ground so as to not ruin the scene of the bustling city. You also stated that AC wires are not made out of copper. I have to ask, what will happen to all the copper miners who mine the copper for the wires? Where will they go? There will be so many people out of work that even you prestige leaders can’t help them all. This explicitly contradicts your final statement that AC power “is the best choice for everyone in the country. If hundreds of copper miners lose their jobs, is that really what’s best for EVERYONE?

James Hiscock (CS)

2/1/2011 12:10:57 pm

In response to Mr. Jefferson I would like to disagree with his theory. He seems to be more worried about the rewiring of his house than the current his self. I think that we should use AC because it is safer and will be more efficient. And yes, a person died from AC but that doesnt change the fact that people die from DC all the time. KTHXBYE

James Hiscock (CS)

2/1/2011 12:14:25 pm

In response to Mr. Dickinson, I also disagree with his idea. Yes DC could be useful but AC could be more useful/efficient. If we gave the AC a try you would see the results. KTHXBYE

Mary Hill (JH)

2/1/2011 12:17:20 pm

I disagree with Mr. Nikola Tesla. For a start, Mr. Tesla, you say that your current doesn’t use coal, and yet Mrs. Beatrice, the rural farmer, states that it does. Can you please clarify? Also, what are the dangers with 6,800,000 horsepower? Surely it has some dangers. For instance, if we switch to AC power, and some of the wires are above and some are below, and, say, someone begins construction, and digs into the ground instead of above the town to avoid those wires, and they hit a different AC wire without knowing it, there has to be some danger to that. With wires in both places, how are you going to expand the cities, and towns? What happens if a rural farmer needs AC wires to come all the way to their house, instead of having a 6,800,000 horsepower converter conveniently located in their basement? How much will it cost to expand America? DC generators are considerably smaller, and can safely reside in a rural farmer’s basement, which automatically cuts the cost of putting wires up between the nearest power plant and the farm. Also with the generator, the matter of the major resistance in the DC wires is minimal, also. A DC current can go around a mile without losing much power, but after that it begins to weaken. In a farmhouse, you don’t need all that extra, unsafe power, all you need is enough for your own home.

James Hiscock (CS)

2/1/2011 12:17:48 pm

In response to Mr. Colesback once again you are worrying to much about yourself and not the whole USA. You just made a valid point that we would need "more" coal to power DC so why would we want that when we have a great alternative. KTHXBYE

Char Colesblack ICE

2/1/2011 12:19:22 pm

THIS RESPONSE IS FOR EVERYBODY!! PLEASE READ IT! Thank you to all of those smart, sensible people that agree with me that DC should be used to power the United States! Ms. Annie Murphy, you make becoming a copper miner sound like a very easy thing to do. BUT DON’T YOU THINK THAT THE COPPER MINERS NOW ARE GOING TO BE THE ONES MINING FOR THE COPPER FOR AC?!?!?! Exactly!! Use your mind!!! I highly doubt light will reduce the amount of crime there are in cities! My shovel was stolen from me in broad daylight and the police never caught the thief!! Mr. Nikola Tesla, okay. Use your mind. I am a coal miner. There are millions of other coal miners in America. IF WE ALL LOSE OUR JOBS THEN THE ECONOMY GOES WAAAY DOWN AND SOME PEOPLE WON’T EVEN BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THE ELECTRIC BILL!!! AND YOU ARE TELLING ME THAT IT WON’T RUIN OUR COUNTRY!! Wow…just wow… you may be smart but you have absolutely NO COMMON SENSE! Mr. George Westinghouse, DC current uses a lot more coal than AC. and don’t disagree with me because I am a coal miner and I know exactly where my coal goes. Wow…you don’t even know about your own generators…how sad. But yes…you’re wrong. DC goes through much much much more coal than AC. Mr. Lucius Robinson. NEVER NEVER NEVER WILL I WORK FOR WESTINGHOUSE!!! How can you say that you are wasting too much money on coal? I hope you realize that people have to dig out the coal. nope nope nope…you’re wrong wrong wrong WRONG Mr. Hiscock…if I lose my job that means a million other miners lose their job and we’ll go into a depression and then people won’t be able to pay the electric bill and then you’ll wish you wouldn’t have selected AC.

James Hiscock (CS)

2/1/2011 12:22:46 pm

Ms. Hill. I can tell you are very educated and you make extremely valid points. The one thing is that we have to run a whole country on a current and why not use the one that is more energy efficient and can travel further? KTHXBYE

James Hiscock (CS)

2/1/2011 12:25:16 pm

My Robinson I couldn't agree with you more. You are right, if we could power AC for free why would we mine coal? I believe with all my heart that we should use AC current.

James Hiscock (CS)

2/1/2011 12:29:18 pm

Yes Mr. Madison. If we have the natural resources why dont we use them. There are many ways to power AC. It would be cheaper, more efficient, and it would last longer. KTHXBYE

Mary Hill (JH)

2/1/2011 12:29:41 pm

Good Afternoon, Mr. Franklin! In response to your post, I do not agree. Firstly, how is opening a new mine saving copper? Wouldn’t it be using up more of it? Secondly, explain to me the dangers of 1000-1500 volts of power coursing through everyday places with people passing under them. If 300 men are employed, what will happen to those who don’t get the job and have to pay money to switch from DC to AC current? Does AC use any coal at all? If not, then it’s not keeping coal miners in business, and is only compensating for them by offering a measly 300 jobs. In New York, nearly all of the wires above the city are AC powered. I am a bit confused: how is 1000-1500 volts, which is deadly if coursed through your body, keeping people safe? I believe that if there is a large storm and AC wires go down, innocent passersby may die horribly, especially if its wet out. AC is very powerful, I agree, but is it too powerful to deal with?

James Hiscock (CS)

2/1/2011 12:32:29 pm

Mr. Westinghouse, every point you made was awesome. It is cheaper, it last longer, and you can use water to run it. There is no reason to use DC. You have my support sir.

Mary Hill (JH)

2/1/2011 12:33:43 pm

I completely support what Joe Palin is saying. Many copper miners need DC power to sustain their jobs and livelihoods. Even though Mr. Westinghouse is creating 300 jobs, he’s also taking away countless jobs by not using copper.

Mary Hill (JH)

2/1/2011 12:39:03 pm

Many coal miners, animal rights activists, and I all agree with what Jim Pikus says. With DC power, copper and coal miners will keep their jobs, and animals and people will not be killed as easily. Im not saying its not possible, im saying that its much, much harder to do. I agree with Pikus in that it doesn’t matter how much we have to sacrifice for the right current, as long as we make the safest decision.

Beatrice Jones

2/1/2011 12:40:44 pm

To Char Colesblack I would like to say that I understand that life is hard and that you have to provide for your families but you as need to think about everything as a whole. The big picture is the planet and the environment, which is very important to ME and my job which I can’t provide for my family without, and with all those generators that will have to be built I will be put out of business because plants will stop growing and cattle with stop growing because there’s no plants for them to eat it’s a cycle and when one thing in that cycle is changed so is everyone else. So, though I understand your situation I also need to think about what would be best for rural farmers everywhere and what’s best for my family and life style. I am still for AC!

Beatrice Jones

2/1/2011 12:41:28 pm

In response to Mary Hill’s entry I say though you make a good point about how DC is simpler and easier to use the word is not a simple place and we need something that’s strong and that can support not only small towns but gigantic cities with towers that touch the skies. To the people in your town may think that it’s a good idea but when one of those generators fails your small town will be in utter darkness and that would not be good if that happened in one of the big cities people would be unable to do anything so I say we just use AC which may be more dangerous and strong but it works more efficiently than DC and will make sure we don’t have any issues like a city going completely dark.

Beatrice Jones

2/1/2011 12:41:47 pm

To Lucas Robinson I would like to say that I completely agree with you and support everything you’ve said. The way the supporters of DC are looking at AC’s power is completely wrong you shouldn’t see the danger, which I am not saying doesn’t exist, but you should see the qualities like how fast it is and how must more energy your getting for so much less. It’s a deal that no one should be able to refuse!

Beatrice Jones

2/1/2011 12:42:05 pm

Mr. Westinghouse I agree with you one hundred percent and think you make a great point. AC has so many wonderful qualities that DC does not have. Thank you so much for finding Mr. Tesla and having him invent AC, if chosen it will be very helpful to me and rural farmers everywhere.

Beatrice Jones

2/1/2011 12:42:26 pm

To the Mr. Tesla I would like to say Thank you for inventing AC I also would like to agree with you. DC is inefficient and doesn’t help the environment. AC is much more diverse and can be used in many ways and is easy to control or use which is the exact opposite of DC. I am supporting you completely!

Mary Hill (JH)

2/1/2011 12:42:35 pm

I agree with Mr. Jehl. I admit that I had no idea there were so many deaths by AC current, but it only goes to show that if you want AC current, you really want pain and strife. The most occurring problems on both of the currents are jobs and safety, and DC has both.

Nikola Tesla (SA)

2/1/2011 12:47:39 pm

Ms. Hill you make SOME good points. What i meant was that it doesn't use as much coal as DC. Also I think some of your facts are incorrect. You state that "What happens if a rural farmer needs AC wires to come all the way to their house, instead of having a 6,800,000 horsepower converter conveniently located in their basement?" The 6,800,00 horsepower comes from Niagara Falls and it's not a converter. The converter is a completely different thing. Also you are completely wrong when you say a DC generator is much smaller. I created a generator for AC that is much smaller than a DC generator which is very large. Also when you say that for AC some wires are above and some are below...it's the same exact thing for DC so I don't know where your going with that.

Mary Hill (JH)

2/1/2011 12:52:47 pm

Mrs. Murphy, when you commented on my dialog you said that we need one small generator. One small generator, that will have so much power that it could kill someone in 4 minutes!!! Also, with many, not several, small generators, you don’t have to rely on only one. If one goes down, the other people in the towns will still have their own power. DON’T YOU DARE CALL ME SELFISH!!!!! Think!! How many small towns are there in the US compaired to large cities? WAY more!!!! I think you should take your own advise and think about the smaller folk for a moment!!!! I have lived in a big city, thank you. Our generators are located in the basements of houses and the hospital. There are not as many as you think, and you are insolent for suggesting it! I believe im thinking about America more than you are, because you only care about the large things and the large cities! Again: there are tons more small towns than large ones!! What did your large cities start out as? SMALL TOWNS!!! Get your manners and your facts straight, then talk to me about your current.

Nikola Tesla (SA)

2/1/2011 12:54:25 pm

Mr. Colesblack I am going to ask you to calm down...deep breaths. Okay back to argument, instead of bashing people for their ideas maybe you should come up with good arguments. WRITING IN ALL CAPS DOES NOT PROVE YOUR POINT ANY BETTER. The amount of time you wasted writing "Use your mind!!" you could have maybe researched a little more instead of automatically disagreeing with anyone who supports AC. AC has it's flaws, yes I know that and i'm trying as best as I can to fix it. But DC has its own problems too.

Francis Jehl

2/1/2011 01:34:15 pm

To Mr. Edison's reply, thank you Mr. Edison for acnologing me. And thank you for discovering as wonderful as Direct Current. With it we will change lives and the world itself!

Beatrice Jones

2/1/2011 01:38:06 pm

To Henry Franklin and Thomas Edison. First I totally agree with you, Henry Franklin, and think all things you said are great. I don’t know why people are saying AC wires can’t go underground but they can and it would make it so animals wouldn’t get into the wires and kill themselves, which I know Thomas Edison is fearful of. So, to Thomas Edison’s response to my entry my animals are perfectly safe and I would need more power to help with the extensive amount of lights I have on my large property I can’t afford for them to go out because some DC generator died. That would make it so I couldn’t send out my vegetables and then I wouldn’t be able to provide for my family. And then I wouldn’t be able to pay for my house and my family would become homeless all because of DC NOT working. So I think I’m going to stick with AC. But thanks for the vote of confidence.

Beatrice Jones

2/1/2011 01:38:27 pm

I completely agree. DC wouldn’t be a good choice for our nation because of how many large cities we have. Also AC is sooooooooo much better for the environment than DC because it uses renewable source and doesn’t affect the earth like digging for TONS of coal and copper does. AC may be using coal and copper but it’s using less which may lower the employment rate but it also helps our planet last that much longer. Also for those ppl who are losing their jobs in the mines should start building the motors for AC to get the energy for the water. It would be a useful job that would always be around. So yea I completely agree with you!

Beatrice Jones

2/1/2011 01:38:50 pm

To Joe Palin I disagree. Though I understand the need to keep your job once again you need to look at the big picture. By choosing DC your making our world be polluted a lot faster than it is being right now. You may be keeping your job but what if something happened to the world because of pollution, wouldn’t you not have your job anymore. So really it’s not only what’s important for you but what’s doing the right thing for a large group of people.

Francis Jehl

2/1/2011 01:42:52 pm

Mrs. Murphey, I understand what you are trying to say, but I would really like to see you say what you said to family members of the person who got electricuted with AC. Put yourself in their shoes, if your family member died from AC what would you have done. These people who died from AC were not careless. They died because of this threat and I intend to get rid of it for good!

Francis Jehl (LF

2/1/2011 01:48:17 pm

Mr. Palin thanks a lot for agreeing with me. And to Mr. Tesla, I'm sorry I had skipped that portion of read, excuse me! :)

Beatrice Jones

2/1/2011 01:56:10 pm

Jim Pikus I disagree with you and support AC. There were very few cases in which a person was killed by AC and that was because the man wasn’t being careful around very high powered wires and he was killed because of his own stupidity. As for the animals, in the article Electricity and Animals or Electricity on Animals is about how they tested it on animals not that animals were killed by it. The point is that of course it would kill them but if we’re careful, which we should always be, then we will be fine and then we will be more efficient and will be able to work faster than with DC. That’s why you should choose AC.

Beatrice Jones

2/1/2011 02:05:30 pm

In response to Francis Jehl I would like to say that those Americans would not be out of jobs because many new jobs would be opening up as the mining jobs closed. Also, I do agree that it might affect you if we chose AC but you could always go and work for George Westinghouse and if not then you could help Edison make the switch so you wouldn’t lose your job you’d actually have more to do than before. And to the reference of the people that had died I would like to say they should have been more careful when around open wires and on the animals that was probably in a test where they were actually trying to kill the animals. So, I say we choose AC for it would work better for the USA if we can actually think through being cautious which I think we can so I say GO AC!

Beatrice Jones

2/1/2011 02:05:49 pm

Too All other people I have yet to answer if you agree with me and believe AC is the best choice then awesome thank you for agreeing with me and you don’t really need to hear anything else you know all the good things about it so you can just stop reading right here but for those who oppose me you should understand that your wrong even if you don’t wish to be you still are because AC can put wires underground. AC is going to employ more people because not only do they need miners for coal and copper but they also need people to replace all the wiring in houses and to fix the wiring and for people to start building the generators for places like at Niagara Falls. AC is better for the environment and travels farther and is still strong then DC when it gets to its end point. It may have killed someone but that was because he wasn’t being cautious and did it to himself. Another thing for animals that need to be slaughter, which I understand is a gruesome thing but it’s part of my job, then using AC would be a lot easier than the old methods (Ask Mrs. Goodwin if you don’t remember the “old ways” BLAH). So that is all I have to say to the people who responded to my entry. Thank you for your attention.

Jim Pikus (RR)

2/2/2011 12:39:18 am

Responding to Mr. Colesblack, I have the same opinion. Unemployment rates will be extremely high. Generations of families that have been coal miners, and their cities, will no longer exist. People may even have to turn to crime just to feed their families.

Jim Pikus (RR)

2/2/2011 12:42:46 am

In response to Ms. Hill, I completely agree and see where you are coming from. Being a nurse, I’m sure safety is one of your main concerns in life. And with the structures of the different currents, I feel that it is better for wires to be underground as opposed to above. And yes, people have said that AC can go further, but I agree with you that DC power we would have to have people know and generate the amount of power needed for their direct current, but that most certainly can happen!

Jim Pikus (RR)

2/2/2011 12:46:31 am

As a response to Mr. Robinson, I do not agree. There are so many men in our country that work in coal mines, so if we stopped using them, the unemployment rate would go way up, are you saying you want that? As a governor, don’t you also want your state to have a low unemployment rate, which will cause less people to need financial help from the government?

Jim Pikus (RR)

2/2/2011 12:51:52 am

Responding to Ms. Jones, if you think that all the materials in the AC are going to affect our planet, then why are you supporting it? And as to your further comments, do you even know what “stupidity” killed the man that was killed by alternating current? He was on a ladder and slipped, and his human reaction was to grab the nearest thing to maintain his balance so that he did not fall off of the ladder and injure himself. Would you have done differently? If it were a direct current, then the man would not have been killed because the voltage is less.

Jim Pikus (RR)

2/2/2011 12:55:54 am

To George Westinghouse, I have different thoughts. Though you did address the issue of safety, is 1500-2000 volts not extremely dangerous?

Jim Pikus (RR)

2/2/2011 12:58:44 am

In response to Annie Murphy’s outrageous comments, I would like to ask you this: how do you know that electrocutions don’t hurt? Just a small shock can be felt pretty easily, imagine what a large shock feels like. If you talk to anybody who has been electrocuted, it is a burn and it hurts. My understanding is a large enough shock can stop your heart!

Jim Pikus (RR)

2/2/2011 01:02:28 am

Mr. Tesla, I have a few questions. All supporters of the direct current have had issues with the safety of the alternating current. You said that the alternating current wires are and have been capable of being underground, providing more safety. My question though is, why hasn’t this been happening all along? If the wires have always been capable of being underground, why haven’t they been? Has safety not been a concern?

Jim Pikus (RR)

2/2/2011 01:05:07 am

To Mr. Franklin, I am a little confused. George Westinghouse said that the voltage of an alternating current is between 1500 and 2000 volts. Now you are saying that the current of AC has the potential of 1000 to 1500 volts. What has changed?

Jim Pikus (RR)

2/2/2011 01:07:54 am

As a response to Mr. Palin, I agree 100%. Employment is so important, and although people have said that AC will still use coal, the use will be far less than with DC, which will make many miners have to be released from their jobs.

Jim Pikus (RR)

2/2/2011 06:58:47 am

I feel the same way as you, Mr. Jehl. You have addressed safety and jobs, which are two things that are extremely important to me, a representative of the people. Safety is not a problem with direct currents, and though people are saying it is the same with alternating current, the statistics of deaths that you have provided are very good in proving that direct current is much safer than alternating.

James Hiscock (CS)

2/3/2011 10:44:18 am

Hello everyone. I have come to the conclusion that we should use an AC current to power our country. First of one big factor of my decision is that AC is much cheaper than DC allowing low class families to spend so much paying for electricity. Secondly it last longer and travels further, so we won't have to replace generators and such. Lastly we can run AC currents with natural resources including water. I think that there is no doubt in my mind that this will be the best choice for our country. THANK YOU ALL!

Henry Payne(SSV)

2/3/2011 10:44:59 am

Hello i am henry payne and i am a senator in this dicussion and i have decided that my vote should be cast upon the AC. I believe AC is more enviormentally friendly. The cost will be great to switch the currents from AC to DC, but once established it will be cheap. Not all miners will be put out of business with the switch some will be kept in mines Mr. Westinghouse has provided. Thanks to Henry franklin and other peopel supporting AC i have changed my mind from DC to AC. Another reason i switched is because AC current can travel very long distances while DC current must either switch or will lose power over time. AC power may also be planted undergroud which will be very safe and eco friendly. Now the issue regarding this dog and man. The solution also is with the establishment of the AC current being placed undergroud. I really hoep my insight has changed other Senators to vote for AC. Peace I'm out.

Henry Payne(SSV)

2/3/2011 10:47:45 am

James hiscock is right he knows whats best for the country good job man

Frank Hiscock (KA)

2/3/2011 11:14:18 am

Hello my name is Frank Hiscock and i am a senator from the state of New York. After pondering for a long time and reading all of your posts, I have come to the conclusion that DC is the better source for our country. Most of New York and a lot of the nation is already powered by dc. Although dc travels a shorter distance than ac, dc can travel the same distance with more generators. AC can only travel that far because of its extremely high current, which is very dangerous. They use ac power for the electrical chair to kill people! It has even killed a circus elephant and a large horse! Besides that, dc cables are underground and aren't dangerous, and ac cables are. They have said that ac cables can be put underground, but if ac cables can be underground then why aren't they already? Also, since most of New York and the US is powered by DC, it would be far too expensive to switch everything to AC power.

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