Electricity Debate
 
Edison's assistant (JL)
1/24/2011 06:05:26 am

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Otto Ottoson
1/24/2011 07:29:42 am

Make sure that you put the name of your character in the debate followed by your initials.

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Alonzo B. Cornell: NYC gov. (CK)
1/24/2011 09:07:47 am

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Francis Jehl (SS)
1/24/2011 11:15:06 am

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George Westinghouse (AD)
1/26/2011 03:41:50 am

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George Westinghouse (AD)
1/26/2011 04:21:52 am

I'm George Westinghouse. I support AC 100%!

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Alonzo B. Cornell: NYC Gov (CK)
1/26/2011 08:11:47 am

AC is what i support as well. I think it would be the best for powering the well known city or new york.

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Alonzo B. Cornell NYC GOV (CK)
1/26/2011 08:13:51 am

AC will keep the Niagara Falls running by using hydroelectricity. If we use DC, it will abandon one of the beauties of life, Niagara Falls. Using this hydroelectricity is very effective AND inexspensive.

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George Westinghouse (AD)
1/26/2011 11:06:27 am

I am George Westinghouse, and I would like to encourage the use of AC for many reasons. One of the most important ones is that it travels much farther than DC, and it is cheaper. All you farmers and regular citizens will benefit alot more from AC.

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Alonzo B Cornell (ck)
1/27/2011 10:26:59 pm

I agree. AC is going to benefit New York City a lot. I dont think that DC would help anyone because it has a lot of negative points. Like Edison took small animals (charged school boys .25 for each animal) and electrocuted them. and killed an elephant. HOW CRUEL. The head of AC would never want that, so he uses careful watch over his AC and he would never do such a thing.. AC will benefit us a lot.

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Francis Jehl (ss)
1/27/2011 10:35:47 pm

Well, Alonzo, AC current has killed over 100 people. Isn't it worse to kill humans than animals? Besides, AC has also killed many animals, mainly dogs, while testing how many volts could kill a dog.

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Government Representative from New York (AF)
1/29/2011 03:13:39 am

As a government Representative from New York, I believe that AC would be a better choice, because it is cheaper. Generating this power can be done through 5000 horse-power generators and underground wires to transfer the power. The voltage of AC can reach about 1500 to 2000, this is much higher than the DC voltage. The resistance related to the distance traveled has a very little effect on AC power. Even as the power travels across hundreds of miles very little voltage is lost. The cost of AC compared to the cost of DC is much cheaper. DC requires a power plant about every mile, which would cost the state millions of dollars. This would also take up a lot of space in the city and would be nearly impossible to power farms in the country. It cost around three million dollars to generate power from Niagara Falls, but this gives off enough power to power an entire aluminum plant. AC power can also use underground wires. These wires provide to risk of danger even though they are near gas pipes, even in damp weather. AC power requires less material than DC , because of the fewer power plants needed. It also uses less copper which cost 17 cents per pound. This power could be used city wide to power street lights and business sign. By lighting up the streets we would also be preventing crime. Overall AC is the better and cheaper choice for the State of New York.

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George Westinghouse
1/30/2011 01:01:09 am

You are very wise to choose AC government representative. AC company belongs to me, and we work very hard to make it top quality. The voltage of AC reaches 1500 to 2000. Also, AC can travel long distances, while DC requires a large amount of voltage to match the same distance traveled. One reason why is that AC is not affected by resistors as much as DC. Also, AC began using hydroelectric power from Niagara falls. This energy source is renewable and very reliable, unlike coal used by DC. In reality, AC was chosen to harness the power of Niagara to generate electricity over long distances instead of DC. It was a majority vote, and I, Westinghouse, was chosen. Other reasons that AC is better than DC include the fact that AC is cheaper that DC. Regular citizens can afford to use AC. Also, farmers that are isolated can now have long distance electricity for a lower price. Ways AC are still improving includes burying all its wires. Most will find it safer this way, but i would like to make it clear that over head wires are not dangerous if they are equipped properly. Some basic facts about AC include things like the fact that it still uses copper and coal, but not nearly as much. Also, it has been chosen to light a numerous amount of places, including Broadway. Overall, AC is definitely the best choice for any state.

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George Westinghouse (AC)
1/30/2011 01:03:42 am

Sorry i forgot to leave my initials on my previous comment. I did now.

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George Westinghouse (AD)
1/30/2011 01:05:49 am

I left the wrong initials. I'm so sorry Mrs. Tobias. I'm positive i have the right ones now. =). The previous two comments are from George Westinghous (AD).

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George Westinghouse (AD)
1/30/2011 04:51:04 am

I would like to give more specific facts about why AC would be a better choice. When I bought Nikola Tesla's patents, I built the first ever AC generating power plant. It is still super efficient. Over a distance of two miles, the only energy that is lost is less than 5%. Also, many power plants create AC, and it requires time and money to then convert to DC. Overall, AC is still the better choice.

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William Stanley
1/30/2011 05:27:07 am

I am William Stanley and I support Alternating current. Alternating current is superior over direct current for 2 major reasons. First alternating current can travel further than direct current can in less time and there are also less energy losses in direct current when traveling long distances. Also alternating current can be produced by hydroelectric generators to make electricity in New York and also on other rivers that we could put dams on. This is why alternating current is superior to direct current.

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William K. L. Dickson (JL)
1/30/2011 07:21:12 am

I work for Thomas Edison and am his assistant. I completely support direct current and think it is the best choice. Direct current can either be a battery current, a half-wave current, or a full-wave current. Direct current is made by batteries and solar cells. It can flow in a wire and act as insulators and semi conductors. The voltage ranges from 100-150 volts and is continuous, so it is never interrupted, unlike alternating current. And AC’s voltage ranges from 1500 to 2000 volts, making AC more risky because of how high its voltage is. The resistance is positive and the distances are reasonable, around one mile. Even if alternating current can travel further, it uses more material than direct current. A bad fact about alternating current is that it can seriously injure people. It is known that one man who was working in an electrical company got both of his hands terribly burned, and he was struck dead. And alternating current can kill animals and people very easily. Also, it can harm nature. Wires containing alternating current are spread through the city on streets and on top of roofs, making it hard for people to get around. This also makes it hard for firemen on people’s roofs. Another negative thing about alternating current is that it can send itself along fire-alarm wires, breaking alarm boxes. And if AC wins, people will lose their jobs, such as coal miners and copper miners, leaving more unemployed people! This is why direct current is more reliable and more safer than alternating current.

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New York Government Representative (EL
1/30/2011 07:34:21 am

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Nikola Tesla (BR)
1/30/2011 07:49:30 am

I am Nikola Tesla and I support Alternating Current. Alternating current can travel longer distances take up less space, it's better for the enviornment, and it will cost less money than direct current. DC requires in-town generators within every five mile radius for it to work, and requires thicker wires.Direct current burns coal which is bad for the air we breath. Each generator built for DC will take up more and more space were people could use that space for a home or shop or road. The unnecessary generators will cost more too making direct current more expensive for the person using it making people not want to use it. Alternating current can travel longer distances without using so many generators. AC uses transformers to controll the current and voltage, alowing the power to travel farther. Alternating current can be generated using hydroelectric generators, preventing us form breathing bad air. This is why Alternating current is better that direct current.

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Roger Kessler (OG)
1/30/2011 08:53:08 am

I am a copper miner and I am for Direct Current. I support DC for basic reasons such as it uses more copper and it is much more safer and simpler than Alternating Current. Copper and coal and electromechanical elements power direct current. It uses between 110 to 220 volts and the high voltage is used to transport power. The resistance grows with the length of conductor and It can travel long distances at higher voltages. Most electrical circuits require DC and its used for more circuits. Overall, Direct current is the best choice.

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Thomas Edison (GC)
1/30/2011 09:30:32 am

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Francis Jehl (ss)
1/30/2011 09:52:26 am

My fellow citizens of America, the question before us is what type of current we shall choose to light our world. The obvious answer is direct current, or DC. For one thing, DC was invented first and has been around for much longer than AC current. DC provides work and wealth to copper mines and coal mines around America, as well as providing countless job opportunities to work in the mines. DC uses the coal and copper as its energy source. There are electric fans, electric irons, and electric cars run on DC, as well as electric lamps that use 110 volts, and costs the cheap price of about $1.00. Anything that uses a battery, for example flashlights, hand held drills, cell phones, and laptop computers, uses DC current. Also, cardiac defibrillators use DC to save lives. Unlike AC, whose dangerous currents have killed over 100 people, DC current has never been know to kill anyone. Though it is dangerous to use it over than a mile away from the power source, it is better that way because the current can bring small communities together. There’s also the fact that short distances come with higher voltage and are safer than long distances. DC has lower line resistance so it loses less current than AC when it travels down lines. DC also has a frequency of zero, so electromagnetic radiation doesn’t occur. Another thing that’s better in DC is that when analyzing it, it is always a real number, whereas AC analysis involves complex numbers. After all this evidence, I'm sure you'll agree with me that DC is the better choice.

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Thomas Edison(GC)
1/30/2011 10:14:42 am

Hi, my name is Thomas Edison and I am a supporter of DC. I was one of the main founders and researchers of direct current and I believe that it would benefit our country much more than alternating current would. DC has been tested out much more than ac. Also, there has been a some incidences in the past couple of years of ac being used to kill someone unintentionally and intentionally. This shows how ac is not as safe and should not be trusted. Even though people may think that direct current's lower voltage (around 100-200 volts) would be a disadvantage, it is actually an advantage. If ever something went wrong, alternating current is more likely to kill or injure (because of its higher voltage) a person than direct current is. Another reason why direct current is better for our country is because of jobs. Direct current uses coal and copper as a power source. Thousands of jobs come from mining coal and copper for direct current power. If we switch to ac, many of those miners will have no work. This could cause great economic problems for our country. Which ever power source we switch to will cost a lot of money to convert the products to the winning power source. But, if the coal and copper miners loose their jobs then it will be even worse for the citizens and the country. Alternating current will take the beauty away from our cities. Its use of wires for the transportation of its power will just make the city look awful. DC just uses generators. Even though it takes more voltage for dc to travel farther, it is still safer and in the end, that is all that really matters. I hope that the senators see how dc would benefit our country. Alternating current is just to unsafe for the people. If we let alternating current continue, we will have many people dead. My company and I have spent many years researching and testing testing direct current out (more years then ac has been tested) and I would hate to see it be put to waste. Thank you for your consideration and time.

Thomas Edison

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William Smith (AL)
1/30/2011 10:28:19 am

I am William Smith, I work as a coal miner and have been since I was young. I am not a highly educated man although I do know what would be best for the miners. I am for Direct Current because this type of electricity uses more copper and coal, so it would benefit the 800 miners that have lost their jobs due to loss of consumption of copper and coal. Direct current is “produced electromechanically by batteries and fuel cells” (Facts on File) Direct current uses about 150 volts. The length of the conductor affects the distance traveled.

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Johnny Smithson (EL)
1/30/2011 11:57:15 am

I am Johnny Smithson, a government representative. I believe that Direct Current is what is best for our country. First of all, Alternating Current is dangerous and can kill animals, even very large ones like Topsy the elephant in 1903. Its voltage, ranging from 1500 to 2000 volts, is so much higher and dangerous than DC's voltage, which ranges from 100 to 150 volts. Although direct current cannot travel as far as alternating current, it still can go as far as one mile. With alternating current's long distance, people can get badly injured by its wires. As for cost, direct current is the best way to go. A single lamp that is run by direct current only costs about one dollar. With direct current, the people of the United States will be safe and employed.

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William K. L. Dickson (JL)
1/30/2011 10:06:36 pm

In refernece to George Westinghouse, I disagree. It is true that DC can't travel as far and costs more than AC, but AC is more dangerious and risky than DC. Don't you think that safety is more important than money? This is why DC is the best choice.

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Francis Jehl (ss)
1/30/2011 10:06:57 pm

In response to the Government Representative from New York, putting AC wires underground to make them safe would be a big expense, whereas DC already has many wires safely underground. Besides, DC is so safe there is no need to bury the wires.

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Government Representative from New York (AF)
1/30/2011 10:09:38 pm

In response to Thomas Edison,the wires needed to transport the power of AC will not ruin the beauty of the cities because these wires are able to be installed underground. Unground wires don't provide any risk to the nearby gas pipes. Therefore the AC wires underground are a good way to provide power for the city.

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George Westinghouse (AD)
1/30/2011 10:10:29 pm

Mr. Edison, you said alot about why DC is better, but only on safety. If AC is used correctly, and has the proper equipment it is safer. You are also incorrect about how lower voltage is better. First of all, it doesn't travel nearly as far, so all the normal citizens and farmers will benefit more. Also, to travel that same distance, you will be charging more money, and raising the voltage. DC is not the best choice.

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Francis Jehl (ss)
1/30/2011 10:12:42 pm

Well, George Westinghouse, how would you respond to the fact that AC has killed over 100 people? ARen't human lives the most important things? Why light up a city if you kill the people in it?

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Francis Jehl (ss)
1/30/2011 10:16:28 pm

I agree with William Dickinson. DC is safer and more reliable. Wouldn't you rather be safe than sorry? Human lives are too precious to waste because you want faster electricity. You should always put safety first. And since there is plenty of coal and copper supply, what is wrong with using them for electricity? It's just taking advantages of the resources available to us.

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William Stanley
1/30/2011 10:16:56 pm

I disagree with everyone that says AC is dangerous. As long ass you use some common sense and take some precautions, AC power is no more dangerous than DC.

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Roger Kessler (OG)
1/30/2011 10:17:06 pm

Well ALonzo B. Cornell, George Westinghouse has also done some cruel things. Did you know that to test the AC power he electicuted many animals such as dogs. In your words, HOW CRUEL. In addition to the animal abuse, AC power is extremely dangerous to humans, it can cause injury or even death. That is why I think DC would be the best choice, because it is much safer and simpler. ALso, all the miners and small town people; like myself, will benefit more from Direct Current

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Johnny Smithson (EL)
1/30/2011 10:17:38 pm

Mr. Francis Jehl is right. The people in big cities and small towns need to be safe.With AC wires everywhere, the people are not safe. The high voltage from alternating current even killed a giant elephant!

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Francis Jehl (ss)
1/30/2011 10:20:18 pm

I agree with Roger Kessler that DC is more useful. Do you use batteries? They are all DC current. How else would your flashlights, your cell phones, and your laptops run? Not with AC! That's why DC is the best choice; we use it everyday. If you get rid of DC, you'd have to say goodbye to your phones and laptops.

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William Stanley (ALR)
1/30/2011 10:22:46 pm

Sorry about forgetting my initials. Roger Kessler, you are clearly misinformed. DC was the one who used electricity to kill animals using AC. Including the killing of Topsy the elephant. Shame on DC and shame on you sir. Sorry about my typo in the last post.

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Nikola Tesla (BR)
1/30/2011 10:23:34 pm

In referance to Johnny Smithson I disagree. How is direct currrent so cheap when you have to build a new generator as the need for electricity expands? Also direct current can be dangerous too the higher the voltage and current the more dangerous DC becomes. AC has transformers to change the amount of voltage and current.

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William Smith (AL)
1/30/2011 10:24:52 pm

In reference to George Westinghouse, I disagree Americans will not benefit whatsoever. The miners will lose the only job we can perform due to our lack of education.

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Government Representative from New York (AF)
1/30/2011 10:26:54 pm

I completely agree with George Westinghouse, that AC is no more dangeroues than DC in used and handled properly. I also agree that AC power is better for farmers, because it would cost less money. By using AC power we would have to build fewer power plants. Overall AC beats DC in almost every category.

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Government Representative from New York (AF)
1/30/2011 10:28:54 pm

In response to Johnny Smithson, AC wires would not be a hazard because we could bury them uinderground. Being that DC can only travel one mile before losing voltage, we would to have to pay for and build a power plant every mile. This would take up a lot of room in the city, but wouldn't be a huge issue. But to get the DC power to the country it would be very expensive to build a power plant every mile until we reach the farms. Therefore I think AC would be the safer and cheaper choice to power our nation.

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Thomas Edison (GC)
1/30/2011 10:31:47 pm

Regarding what William Dickenson said regarding safety, I completly agree. The people of this country are more important than any amount of money. AC could cause this country to not have the citizens that made this country the successful and powerful country it is, and we would be nothing. Ac is not tested enough to be trusted. If George Westinghouse cared about the people of this country, he would know that ac is far to dangerous to be used.If he spent more time testing it out to make it safer, maybe it could be a better and safer power current.

Thomas Edison

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Roger Kessler (OG)
1/30/2011 10:35:31 pm

Since I am a copper miner, I agree with Francis Jehl all the way. For my lifestyle, I will benefit a lot more from DC power becuase it uses more copper and my whole life is all about mining. AC only uses small amounts of copper to power it and DC uses it as one of its main power source. Thank you Francis Jehl fo recognizing that.

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Francis Jehl (ss)
1/30/2011 10:37:48 pm

I agree entirely with Thomas Edison. IF you get rid of DC, you'd close down many coal and copper mines, losing thousands of jobs. This would be awful for our economy because we would have all these poor people with no work who don't have an education and can't do much with their lives except for live on a farm. If they lose their job, then they lose their income and many of them may starve. We should keep DC to support all these families and to make our economy grow.

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George Westinghouse (AD)
1/30/2011 10:38:06 pm

Mr. Jehl, I know you think that AC killed many, but who in their right mind would touch an AC wire. Also, DC has killed so many in innocent animals for mere pennies. Anyway, AC is already alot safer than it was at first. We are burying our wires. And yes, human lives are important but think about it. If everything electrical that has killed people were not used, then we shouldn't use trains because many have died because of them. Mr. Edison, you should also read and think about what I just put. Overall, the one and only thing that all DC members use as their defense is that AC has killed people. Is that all you got? AC is better in so many other ways. It is cheaper, more advanced, travels alot farther, and it used renewable clean resources that will never run out, and it lights up better and is more trusted.

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George Westinghouse (AD)
1/30/2011 10:40:18 pm

Mr. Edison, DC is tested on innocent animals. AC is tested quite a lot, and it should be used and trusted. Again I ask, is that really your only argument? Also, I agree with Government Representative,and William Stanely. Also, Mr. Jehl, we are in the 1800's, what are cell phones and laptops? Anyway, after all that, AC still is winning on the number of positives against negatives.

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Government representative from New York (AF)
1/30/2011 10:42:53 pm

In respnose to Francis Jehl, it is worth the little expensive to keep the city safe. The above ground DC wires still aren't safe. In the past year over fifty fires have been started by these wires. In some cases entire buildings were destroyed. Also many times there are broken wires just dangling in the street which are a danger to citizens. It will cost even more to fix melted power boxes and burnt down buildings. So AC is the right choice, becuase we are keeping the cost down but also protecting the citizens.

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Thomas Edison (GC)
1/30/2011 10:45:15 pm

Hello Mr. Representative from New York. Regarding how you said it would be more expensive to have a generator every 1 mile. I’m sorry to say that your facts are wrong. It would be every 5 miles. Also wouldn’t that be cheaper then to have to dig into the ground to put wires all around the city. Also, if there were any problems, it would be much harder to accesses the wires than the generators. Also, as the times go on and direct current improves, it will be much easier to make renovations to the generators then digging under the ground to make adjustments to the wires.

Thomas Edison

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Francis Jehl (SS)
1/30/2011 10:47:48 pm

Well Mr. Westinghouse, you should realized that DC was only used to kill animals when they were testing BOTH AC and DC to see which one was more lethal; obviously, AC was found to be more deadly for animals and humans alike. And i disagree that AC is more trusted. Have you not been reading how many people it has killed and injured? How unpredictable and dangerous it is compared to DC? IT may be cheaper, but that doesn't always mean better.

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Nikola Tesla (BR)
1/31/2011 07:34:05 am

I agree with George Westinghouse and The Government Representative form New York. Niagra falls gives out lots of power for New York citizens. By using a renewable power souce like hydroelectricity we dont waste coal. In the future we might not have as much coal as we do now so why would we waste it on unnecessary appliances running on DC? The fact that AC can travel longer distances without much voltage loss makes AC more effecient, less expesnive, and more effective than DC.

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William Dickson (JL)
1/31/2011 08:26:17 am

In response to William Stanely, even if DC can't travel as far as AC, it would cost even more to switch everything from DC to AC. And you aren't considering the fact that AC is dangerous and risky. And yes, it is dangerous because many people have died from AC.

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William Dickson (JL)
1/31/2011 08:28:45 am

In response to the Government Representative of New York, copper and coal are main sources of DC. If we get rid of DC, then coal and copper miners would lose their jobs. That would lead to more unemployed people.

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William Dickson
1/31/2011 08:35:15 am

In response to Nikola Tesla, you didn’t mention that many wires containing AC are spread everywhere throughout streets, making it hard for people to get around town. The lose wires are dangerous and cause even a harder job for firemen. At least DC generators aren’t dangerous like AC wires.

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William Dickson (JL)
1/31/2011 08:38:38 am

I completely agree with Roger Kessler. Copper does use direct current, and there are many other copper and coal miners are on our side. If we get rid of DC, then copper and coal miners will lose their jobs, leaving more unemployed people. And DC is simpler than AC.

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William Dickson (JL)
1/31/2011 08:43:45 am

I completely agree with Francis Jehl. Batteries use DC, and without batteries, life would be very hard. And automobiles use DC, without cars, life would also be hard. And AC is dangerous, and known to have killed more than 100 people. And even if DC has killed animals, AC has killed people. People are more important than animals. This is why I agree with Francis Jehl and that DC is the best choice.

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William Dickson (JL)
1/31/2011 08:46:26 am

In response to Thomas Edison, I agree. Even if the voltage of AC is higher than DC and can travel more than DC, AC’s high voltage can be a disadvantage. It can cause deaths and it can strike electricity is people’s bodies. And the jobs of copper and coal miners are in danger.

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William Dickson (JL)
1/31/2011 08:49:00 am

In response for William Smith, I agree that DC is the best choice because it won’t allow people to lose their jobs. It is not fair for copper and coal miners to lose their jobs, they have worked hard. And they need their jobs to pay for food and shelter for them and their families.

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William Dickson (JL)
1/31/2011 08:51:16 am

I agree with Johnny Smithson, DC is the best choice. Not only has AC killed animals, but it has killed people. DC can’t travel as far as AC, but many small towns are happy with DC. It would be just a waste of money if we switch everything from DC to AC.

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William Dickson (JL)
1/31/2011 08:54:29 am

Again, I agree with Francis Jehl, getting rid of the DC wires and replacing them with AC wires would just cost too much. DC wires are already underground and are safe for people. They don’t cause injuries as AC wires do. We should just keep DC, not wasting our money we could use for some things that are more useful.

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William Dickson (JL)
1/31/2011 08:56:42 am

In response to George Westinghouse, the high voltage of AC is a disadvantage. It is better if wires have a lower voltage, even if they can’t travel as far. There are many small cities and towns that use DC, and they are completely happy with it. So why just spend more money and switch the wires to AC?

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William Dickson (JL)
1/31/2011 09:28:26 am

In response to William Stanely, AC is dangerous, even if you use safety equipment. Many people have been killed by AC. Nature has been harmed by AC, and animals have been killed by AC, showing that AC is dangerous. Even if you start to use safety equipment, it won't erase the horrible memories people have about how AC has killed many things.

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Roger Kessler (OG)
1/31/2011 09:59:28 am

Willian Stanley, if I am so misinformed please tell me why? I'm certain that you have information to back up your opinion. If not, that just is all the more proof that Direct Current is a much better choice

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Thomas Edison(GC)
1/31/2011 10:41:33 am

George Westinghouse,
For information, that is not my only argument. I could explain to you how your company also tested on animals or how it would cost a lot of money to put wires underneath the ground of the city. But, unlike you, my main concern is the safety of the people. If you really cared about the people, you would know that ac has killed many of people and has scared many of them. Is that what you want? Do you want Americans to have to live in fear every day of being electrocuted to death by alternating current's dangerously high voltage? Direct current is obviously the better choice.

Thomas Edison

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Thomas Edison(GC)
1/31/2011 10:53:22 am

Hello again Mr. Government representative from New York. Im sorry for my misunderstood fact. But, could you please tell me something? Wouldn't the cost to drill into the ground to put wires (that could end up killing many people) be far higher than putting a generator every five miles. Each time you have to renovate old wires or put more new ones in, you would have to dig into the ground. That cost would be far higher than generators.

Thomas Edison

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Thomas Edison(GC)
1/31/2011 11:05:04 am

I completely agree with everything William Dickinson and Francis Jehl have said. Direct current is a way better choice. It has been established for longer and if it lost it would hurt this countries economy. While alternating current has been ruining people lives by KILLING them, direct current has been making peoples lives better. The lives of coal and copper miners depend on the use of direct current. Many of these hard working Americans would loose their jobs and become homeless if alternating current was chosen. But if we look at the bigger picture here, this could really hurt our economy. With people loosing their jobs, people wont have the money to be able to pay bills. This country could have an ECONOMIC CRISIS! George Westinghouse and other alternating current supporters, I ask you to not think about yourselves and your companies, but the welfare of this country and its citizens.

Thomas Edison

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Thomas Edison(GC)
1/31/2011 11:16:42 am

Nikola Tesla, I ask you to stop for a moment and think about how you would feel if one day you found out that one of your loved ones were killed by alternating current. How would you feel? This same incident has happened to many people. I ask you to stop and take a moment to think about something else than the facts about the power you created. I ask you to look at what this monster of a power you have created has done to the citizens. Nothing but harm. They can get the same power from direct current than with alternating current. The only additional thing they are getting with ac is the death of their loved ones. Direct current might not have as high of voltage as alternating current does, but it can do the same job. It is also more tested out than alternating current is because it was created before alternating current was. Dc has more of the trust of the people than ac does, and we don't want the people to live in fear, do we? In the future direct current will probably find a substitute for coal. But for now, lets stay focused on what the people need now. That is direct current power.

Thomas Edison

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Alonzo. B Cornell (CK)
2/1/2011 12:59:00 am

I am Alonzo B. Cornell, a New York Governor. I am a high-business man and politician, who is very well educated. I am for Alternating Current. I think it would be best for running the popular city of New York City. Alternating current is generated through electromagnetic induction. This is performed by a moving coil of wire, passing through the magnetic field. The voltage of A.C. in the USA is 220 Volts at 60 Hertz. Voltage of alternating current can be changed through a transformer. The Niagara Falls Project began in 1890’s. It sent a system of canals down the Falls, using hydroelectricity. Alternating current acted as a benefit to the people, transmitting hydroelectric power wirelessly and inexpensively, and Niagara Falls, environmentally supporting it. DC is not going to be the best for powering our beloved city. AC can reach up to 2000 volts, and while traveling through a big city, it wont loose hardly any volts unless you use DC. It looses nearly half its volts by the time it gets to the place it needs to be. HOWS THAT FOR BAD SERVICE? AC would be the most effective way for powering New York.

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William Smith (AL)
2/1/2011 03:07:27 am

In reference to George Westinghouse, I disagree the Americans will not benefit whatsoever. Miners will lose their jobs as miners, the only job we can perform due to our lack of education.

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Francis Jehl (ss)
2/1/2011 05:26:52 am

I agree with William Smith, that DC is necessary to maintain the wellfare of many families. If you switch to AC, the copper mines will do badly and have to cut workers. This would be bad for the poor people working there.

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Francis Jehl (ss)
2/1/2011 05:29:47 am

Mr. William Stanley- you say AC current is superior because you can make it on a river. How is that a good thing? Isn't it a good thing that DC can be made off of coal and copper? Besides, when the river dries out, you couldn't use it anymore. Or, if the river floods, it would destroy your equipment and you would have to build it up again, which would be very expensive. For this reason, using natural materials from the earth like DC does is superior.

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Francis Jehl (ss)
2/1/2011 05:32:24 am

I disagree with you Mr. Tesla. It is true that DC has thicker wires and more generators than AC, but that is for safety reasons. If you have wires that are too thin, people and animals are in danger of being electrocuted if they come into contact or by arcs of electricity. Also, the many generators make sure the electricity doesn't have to cover too much distance, making it more reliable and much safer than AC.

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Francis Jehl (ss)
2/1/2011 05:36:47 am

I agree with you Johnny Smithson. Dc will keep this country employed and safe. It would stop people being frightened of their power sources for fear of being electrocuted to death. DC would provide many jobs that are needed for our growing population and economy. Nobody would have to worry about conversion between currents if we change the country to DC and eliminate AC!

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Johnny Smithson (EL)
2/1/2011 05:46:48 am

Mr. Francis Jehl is right, again! DC does in fact power all our daily used electronics, or at least will in the future because I have no idea what a “laptop” is. But, if we get rid of flashlights, we won't be able to see in the dark! Our country needs DC!
Mr. Nikola Tesla, DC’s voltage ranges from 100 to 150 volts, while AC can go up to 2000! With that, how is direct current more dangerous than alternating current?
Mr. William Stanley, Topsy the elephant was killed by Edison because she trampled three of her circus trainers to death. Edison killed her with alternating current to prove how powerful and dangerous it can be and to save people’s lives.

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Thomas Edison(GC)
2/1/2011 09:02:30 am

Hello Mr. Cornell,
I am sorry that our service is not to our satisfaction. But if I may, I would like you to consider the safety of the people of your beloved city. Im not sure if you realized this, but many New York citizens live in fear everyday of being electrocuted. Ac is the cause of their fears. Many of their fellow citizens have died from the power that you think is better than dc. DC might not have as high of voltage, but it does the same job. Also, it has been around and studied for much longer than ac. As a high business man and politician you have to know about reputation and trust in more well developed products. Also, I don't think you want to be in office when this country crashes and burns because the loss of thousands of jobs when the coal and copper miners and fired if alternating current is chosen. WOULD YOU?

Thomas Edison

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Thomas Edison(GC)
2/1/2011 09:08:37 am

Roger Kessler,
I am so glad to see your support of direct current. I hope that direct current is chosen so you don't have to loose your job. As you know, your job is just as important as mine when it comes to direct current, and you are a reason it has become successful. I hope that all the hard work you have spent in the copper mines pay off. As you know, if people like you loose their jobs, this country will end up with nothing.You know was well that I do that alternating current will end up ruining this country by killing or scaring the people, or by making economic problems that will take years to get out of.

Thomas Edison

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Thomas Edison(GC)
2/1/2011 09:15:24 am

Johnny Smithson,
Thank you for your support of direct current. You obviously know as well as I do that alternating current is far to dangerous for the people of America. It is frustrating to see how people think that alternating currents higher voltage is an advantage, when it is really its disadvantage. Its high voltage could kill any person, just like it has killed hundreds already. Also, I was glad to see how you took employment into consideration. Employment is one of the main reasons this country functions so well, and if lots of people become unemployed, well, lets just say we have a PROBLEM!

Thomas Edison

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Thomas Edison
2/1/2011 09:22:36 am

William Dickenson,
I support everything you have said 100%. Dc is obviously the better choice for our country. It is like a package deal. You get everything with dc, where as with ac you get somethings but not others.

Thomas Edison

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George Westinghouse (AD)
2/1/2011 09:36:26 am

Alonzo Cornell, I was looking at one of your early posts, and I really agree with you. Using natural resources is a great way to make electricity. It is also definitely cheaper. I also agree with the fact that DC company tests on innocent animals that they buy for an extremely low price.

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George Westinghouse (AD)
2/1/2011 09:40:15 am

William Stanely, I am pleased you are for AC. You make valid points of why AC is better. Remember, though they are important, they are not the only two reasons why AC is better. There are many more, including the fact that DC killed animals to prove that AC can kill things. That is quite cruel.

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George Westinghouse (AD)
2/1/2011 09:43:01 am

I already addressed New York's government representative, but I would like to say one more time how great it is that you see that AC is truly better. All the facts you have are true. They help prove why AC is a better choice. It is cheaper, travels farther, and has more power. I hope that we can convince even more people to choose AC.

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Thomas Edison(GC)
2/1/2011 09:45:29 am

William Smith,
I am happy to hear of your support of direct current. Men like you have been working very hard in coal mines for much of their life and it would be awful for more of them to loose their jobs. If direct current is chosen, Im positive that those 800 men will get their jobs back.

Thomas Edison

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William Dickson (JL)
2/1/2011 09:48:39 am

Thank you Mr. Edison. I completely agree with everything that you have said. You have clearly stated why DC is the best choice, even if there are some negatives about it. There are more negatives about AC. Even though AC can travel further and is cheaper, it is dangerous. Dangerous in many ways, including harming nature, destroying animals, and killing people! Now what type of people would want to live in a dangerous world? Safety is important that money, as people who support DC have stated before. The people who support AC just can't admit it.

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George Westinghouse (AD)
2/1/2011 09:49:02 am

William Dickinson, I disagree with you in the fact that DC is better. Strangely, I applaud you in the sense that you mentioned a couple facts that help AC. On an other note, higher voltage is an advantage not a disadvantage. I would also like to state, (re-state actually) that the only reasonable argument that all of DC supporters have given is that AC has harmed some people. Those who are having trouble deciding which side to choose should take a look at all the ups of AC, and the one or two ups of DC. I think I have made my point.

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Thomas Edison (GC)
2/1/2011 09:49:19 am

William Stanley,
I was upset to hear that you are supporting alternating current. I would like to tell you the "2 major reasons" why alternating current is bad. First of all, it has killed many people and is still VERY DANGEROUS. Also, it would create great economic problems for our country because of the loss of thousands of minors jobs. This is why direct current is superior to alternating current.

Thomas Edison

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George Westinghouse (AD)
2/1/2011 09:51:51 am

Nikola, you truly have a convincing post. AC is definitely better because it uses natural resources. AC is eco-friendly. Not only is hydroelectric power reusable, but it also doesn't involve tearing up the ground and destroying the earth to reach it. I also support the gact that AC travels farther.

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William Dickson (JL)
2/1/2011 09:58:48 am

In response to Alonzo. B Cornell, you have spoken about many positive things about AC, and they are all true. But you really haven't mentioned the negatives about AC. Since AC has a higher voltage, it is more dangerous. There are many reasons that AC is dangerous, mainly it can kill creatures. Another thing you did not mention was what would happen to the poor, innocent, and hard working coal miners and copper miners. If AC wins, many of them will lose their jobs, and their lives are hard enough. I understand that DC can not travel as far and costs more and can be somewhat bad for New York, but AC has many more negatives than DC. As many people would agree, safety is more important that wealth and money. Really, would you want to be cheap and not safe? or would you like to live in a safe world with a reasonable price?

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George Westinghouse (AD)
2/1/2011 09:58:54 am

Roger Kessler and William Smith, don't you ever wonder if you were meant for something greater than a miner? Maybe you should see the benefits of AC, look for a different career, and help AC win. Also, I AC still uses copper and coal. I have recently bought my own mine. You should come work for it. As for safety, many many more people have died in mines than from AC. Their is a much larger risk of being harmed in a mine than from using AC.

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Thomas Edison(GC)
2/1/2011 09:59:13 am

George Westinghouse,
I applaud you on your clever insults to direct current. But, we have way more tricks up our sleeves. You say that we killed animals, well have you heard how the animals were killed? THEY WERE KILLED USING ALTERNATING CURRENT! The only reason we tested that was to warn people what ac can do. Also you may think that alternating current would benefit many small town people, WELL THINK AGAIN. Most small town people are either coal and copper miners, and they definitly wont be able to pay for power when they LOOSE THEIR JOBS as a result of alternating current being chosen. Also have you heard of a slow and steady approach before? Not all things have to be super fast! As long as they are consistent and have a good track record then they are just as good. Also, you are trying to avoid the fact that the EVIL electric current u have created has KILLED MANY PEOPLE AND RUINED THEIR LIVES! Look at the obvious, people are scared because of your power!

Thomas Edison

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Thomas Edison(GC)
2/1/2011 10:02:56 am

George Westinghouse,
I dont think that the one new mine of yours can create thousands of jobs for the people that will loose theirs if ac wins! Also, many of the miners love where they live and their jobs! Why, in the middle of their lives, would they want to quit something that has made them happy all of there years, to try to find something "greater". Many of the miners don't have a college education so it would be hard for them to find a decent job. Think about the people here!

Thomas Edison

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William Smith (AL)
2/1/2011 10:03:25 am

In response to Alonzo Cornell, I disagree Alternating Current may keep the beautiful Niagra Falls it will cost many Americans their jobs.

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William Smith (AL)
2/1/2011 10:03:45 am

In response to Francis Jehl, I agree Alternating Current is very dangerous also Direct Current is a cheaper choice, it provides many jobs as well.

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William Smith (AL)
2/1/2011 10:04:03 am

In reference to the Government Representative from New York, I disagree America has already been using Direct Current because it was invented first and would cost much more to switch now.

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William Smith (AL)
2/1/2011 10:04:23 am

In reference to William Stanley, I disagree if America choses Alternating Current we would have these hydroelectric generators everywhere which means more money spent when we could chose Direct Current.

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William Smith (AL)
2/1/2011 10:04:57 am

In response to Nikola Tesla, I disagree because having thicker wires and using more coal will benefit many workers and give many Americans jobs.

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William Dickson (JL)
2/1/2011 10:05:23 am

Mr. Westinghouse,
I know that there are some good things about AC, but there are also good things about DC, which you can't admit. At least I can admit positives about AC. And it is not just that DC is better because AC is dangerous. Have you thought of the MANY people who will lose their jobs if AC wins? Think about it, many coal miners and copper miners will lose their jobs, it's not fair to them and their families. Not everybody has an easy life. They have worked hard in their jobs, and now they are just going to get fired? It's horrifying.

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Thomas Edison(GC)
2/1/2011 10:06:07 am

George Westinghouse,
And one more thing. A good person admits their faults. Nothing is perfect, but you cant admit that their is one little thing wrong with your precious alternating current. I admit that direct currents voltage is lower and it doesn't travel as fast, but it is still just as good, if not better, power than alternating current is. It is safer, more well developed, more researched and so many other things.

Thomas Edison

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William Smith (AL)
2/1/2011 10:06:24 am

In response to Roger Kessler, I agree Direct Current can benefit all Americans and is the better choice.

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William Smith (AL)
2/1/2011 10:06:56 am

In reference to Johnny Smithson, I agree that Direct Current is safer for Americans who are uneducated and are more vulnerable to electricution.

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Alonzo B. Cornell (CK)
2/1/2011 10:07:00 am

Thomas Edison,
Oh Oh Oh.
You think that DC is all thattt. Well lets just give you a round of applause for having a current that is SO much more expensive when it doesnt use half the voltage it is set out to use. IT LOSES NEARLY ALL. You are trying to blame all the deaths on AC , but that isnt all true. DC has killed people as well. You are also a very cruel man. YOU were the one who killed the animals. YOURSELF. on purpose. much damage has been done with dc current. so I applaud you for making a wonderful current that not only is causing people to pay more for a much less efficient source but also is causing deaths. CONGRATS!!!!

much love,
Alonzo.

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George Westinghouse (AD)
2/1/2011 10:07:13 am

Thomas Edison,
Can't you see how badly you just made yourself look? You just admitted you PURPOSELY KILLED INNOCENT ANIMALS just to prove AC is dangerous. Try the same thing with DC, and you will get the same results. Also, AC DOES USE some COPPER AND COAL, so they won't all be losing their jobs. Also, MANY MORE PEOPLE HAVE DIED IN MINES TRYING TO GET COPPER AND COAL FOR DC, than those who have died from AC. Oh and by the way, FASTER IS ALWAYS BETTER. FARTHER IS ALSO BETTER WHEN IT COMES TO ELECTRICITY. I think I have made my point.

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William Smith (AL)
2/1/2011 10:11:17 am

In response to Thomas Edison, thank you very much for that optimistic comment. I am hoping my fellow miners will be able to join me back at the mines. And for you, George Westinghouse, mining is the only job I can perform due to my lack of experience I cannot leave or I will not be able to support myself.

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William Dickson (JL)
2/1/2011 10:12:06 am

William Smith,
I completetly agree with you. Especially the fact that if we just switch everything from DC to AC, ill will just waste our money we could use for much more valuable things. And I also think you have states positive facts about DC, including that it will give Americans more jobs, decreasing the number of unemployed people.

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William Smith (AL)
2/1/2011 10:13:57 am

Mr. Dickinson,
Yes I completely agree with you, I have been working as a miner all my life and it would be dreadful to lose it now.

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George Westinghouse (AD)
2/1/2011 10:16:08 am

Jehl,
DC is not better than AC because it is older. Newer is better. More advanced is better. Using natural resources is better. AC is BETTER!

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Alonzo Cornell (CK)
2/1/2011 10:17:34 am

AC will help the city. Using the natural resource with hydroelectricity is working wonders and is soooo less expensive. And this is ridculous that you think AC is SO much more dangerous because its not. its the same danger if not used correctly as DC. Come on. AC is going to be the best for our cities to function correctly and make our citizens the happiest.

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George Westinghouse (AD)
2/1/2011 10:18:53 am

Johnny Smithson, I believe you have your facts mixed up. The current you are for is the one that killed the elephant. We did no such thing. DC is EVIL. I hope you have changed your mind. There are too many other reasons why AC is better. Please look into that.

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Alonzo Cornell (CK)
2/1/2011 10:19:26 am

i HIGHLY agree with westinghouse. Newer is better. We have more knowledge about electricty and technology as time goes on. Therefore, lets just all agree. AC is the best for functioning everything.

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Thomas Edison (GC)
2/1/2011 10:22:39 am

George Westinghouse, No you have not! Yes I did admit to trying to save peoples lives by showing what just a little bit of ac power could do. And no, the same thing would not happen with dc. It would take much more voltage. Also, ac only uses SOME copper and coal (as you said)! The few jobs you will have in your new "mine" will NOT make up for the thousands of jobs I have made for people! Also, mines will become much safer as time goes on because we are willing to make changes that will benefit the people. Eventually, ac would kill many more people because you are too stubborn to make any changes to your power which you think is perfect! IT IS OBVIOUSLY NOT! The most important think about electricity to us is the safety. Our power is just as good as yours, except ours is a little bit better because we care about the safety of the people. No one will need power faster and farther when their DEAD! Dc has the best of both worlds! It is a great source of power, plus it is safe. I BELIEVE I HAVE MADE MY POINT! Thomas Edison

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George Westinghouse (AD)
2/1/2011 10:23:33 am

In response to William Dickinson who stated that the small towns are happy with DC: They are happy because they have not been introduced to the faster, farther technology of AC. Also, WHY WASTE MONEY!?!?!? AC is alot cheaper than DC! That is all I have to say.

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Thomas Edison(GC)
2/1/2011 10:24:53 am

No Alonzo! Newer is not better. DC continues to improve its technology. Maybe if ac took a little more time researching and less time trying to make money for it, then maybe it would be a better power and stop MURDERING people! Thomas Edison

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George Westinghouse (AD)
2/1/2011 10:31:00 am

GO AC AND ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT IT, including: Alonzo Cornell, New York's Government Representative, Nikola Tesla, William Stanely, and many others who SUPPORT AC!!!!

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Thomas Edison(GC)
2/1/2011 10:34:11 am

So sorry to hear your comment Alonzo. You seem to have you facts WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG! You see, my company was trying to warn the citizens about how dangerous alternating current is. The only way to do this was to test alternating current on animals so that the people would see what alternating current does to poor innocent animals. The only reason I had to do it was because George Westinghouse didn't want to have to tell people that his power is dangerous enough to kill animals and people. If you ask George himself, he will probably say that he forgot to test it out or say the results to the public. So I apologize for trying to save the life of thousands and thousands of people! My power makes up for the little lack in efficiency by the safety. I mean, would you rather be electrocuted by ac, or pay a little more with dc. Also, please tell me of the person who was killed by dc power. I have NEVER heard of him before! I think the reason I have NEVER heard of him before is because he doesn't exist! much love back, Thomas Edison

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Alonzo B. Cornell (CK)
2/1/2011 10:34:45 am

Thomas Edison, I am sorry that you can't see the evidence that AC is better right before your eyes. You are hurting people financially as well as murdering people. You are hurting the people, gaining more money for yourselves . So don't put your guilt on us AC supporters. Believe in whats right, Im so sorry you cant see it Alonzo

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Thomas Edison(GC)
2/1/2011 10:38:13 am

Im sorry George, I didnt know you created a cheerleading team for your alternating current ( according to the comment with your cheer)! Good luck with that! While you are coming up with those cheers of yours, we, who support dc power, have been working hard on trying to find a way to make sure that the people are allowed to live a good life by getting dc chosen. Thomas Edison

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Alonzo B. Cornell
2/1/2011 10:40:18 am

Edison: please correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the Electric Chair powered by DC? Doesn't that kill people? The electric chair credits you. You wanted an electric chair to kill people with your current type. I am so sorry you feel the need to kill. That must suck. Much Love THE MOST, ALonzo

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Thomas Edison(GC)
2/1/2011 10:41:39 am

PLEASE! Alonzo, I beg of you, tell me who I am murdering?! I am the one saving people! You are just trying to hide the fact alternating current is the one who is MURDERING people! Do you realize that the little extra money they are paying for safety, is alot less than a funeral would cost them! Thomas Edison

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Alonzo B. Cornell (CK)
2/1/2011 10:44:18 am

YOU EDISON ARE NOT SAVING PEOPLE! YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE! AC was not going to be good enough for killing people with electrocution in a chair. That I can fess up to. But that is a good thing. So stop shaming yourself, and admit you KILL. DC is evil. as well as its creator. xoxo Alonzo

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Thomas Edison(GC)
2/1/2011 10:47:59 am

Actually Alonzo, you are wrong! The electric chair uses alternating current! Look it up! Thomas Edison P.S. Here is the link (copy and paste it into the bar thing) http://www.ccadp.org/electricchair.htm its under the second 1887

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Alonzo B Cornell (CK
2/1/2011 10:49:39 am

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alonzo b cornell (CK)
2/1/2011 10:50:38 am

edison how ignorant you are! You didnt even read the first few bullet points. It was first powered with DC. Maybe get your facts straight before calling me out;) cornell

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William Dickson (JL)
2/1/2011 10:51:11 am

Mr. Westinghosue, I have already told you I know DC is more expensive than AC, I understand that. But you think that people will automatically like AC? We already know, and we can see it presently, that people like DC, and they are happy with it. There are many small towns that are happy with DC. What makes you so sure that they will like AC better than DC? You do not have every aspect, and you do not know what every citizen in the small towns want. You can't please them all with AC. People may like one better than the other, there are many opinions. But really, DC is better than AC. And since we are already use DC, let's just stick with it, instead of going through all that touble to replace everything with AC. I mean it's just a waste of time, and money. And I'm sure it will cost money to replace every wire with AC.

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Thomas Edison(GC)
2/1/2011 10:51:16 am

Read the papers ALONZO! All the killings are from alternating current. Ok I will fess up for you! ALTERNATING CURRENT HAS KILLED MANY PEOPLE BECAUSE OF ITS HIGH VOLTAGE AND BECAUSE IT WASNT TESTED ENOUGH! Doesn't that feel better to get off of your chest? Thomas Edison P.S. ALTERNATING CURRENT IS EVIL!

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Thomas Edison(GC)
2/1/2011 10:54:11 am

ALONZO! I know! But it switched to alternating current and that is what it used for a long time! And I didnt mean call you out on purpose, its just when you insult direct current, you insult me! xoxoxo Thomas Edison P.S. We can be friends again when direct current wins

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ALONZO CORNELL (ck)
2/1/2011 10:55:03 am

edison: Oh well arent you a line stealer!:) wellll. alternating current is the one and only current i will use when powering my city. Its best for me, my people, everyone who wants a successful life. It powers appliances for a longer period of time which is key in New York City. So, you can continue lying to yourself because DC is NOT GOING TO BE POWERING MY CITY! thank you. oh wait. no. Alonzo Cornell.

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William Dickson (JL)
2/1/2011 10:58:19 am

Mr. Edison, I am happy to say that you are completely right in my opinion. AC is dangerous, and it can hurt many people's jobs, leading to more unemployed people. I think people in favor of DC are intelligent. I mean, you did discover the lightbulb around 10 years ago, so it shows how smart you are. You understand the important things about electricity. You have clearly stated the positives about DC! DC is the best choice.

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Johnny Smithson (EL)
2/1/2011 11:00:22 am

Mr. George Westinghouse, Topsy the elephant was killed by alternating current, and if i have my facts wrong then so does Mr.Tom McNichol, because he clearly states Edison used alternating current to kill Topsy in his book called "AC/DC The Savage Tale of the First Standards War".

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Government Representative from New York (AF)
2/1/2011 11:07:12 am

I completely agree with Alonzo B Cornell that AC is the right choice to power the wonderful city of New York. AC is a logical choice because it cost less. It is way cheaper to produce hydroelectricity than to pay to keep all the copper and coal mines running. Also AC is installing the safer underground wires, which would no longer be an annoyance to property owners.

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Francish Jehl (ss)
2/1/2011 11:13:41 am

All this fighting! You would think you guys were school children! Goodness gracious! In reference to one of the way too many posts by Westinghouse, new is not always better. Just because something is renovated doesn't mean its better than the original. DC is trusted, safe, secure, and stable. AC is none of those. There is no question about it.

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Francis Jehl (ss)
2/1/2011 11:16:15 am

Mr. Dickinson, you have a very good point. The people behind DC, such as Edison and myself, are very smart. I'm afraid the same may not be able to be said about the brains behind AC. Anyway, I think all Mr. Edison's hard work should be taken into consideration- he spent years developing the first lightbulb, so he should have the right to decide how the world uses his light! It's only fair.

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William Stewart (JS)
2/2/2011 11:08:08 am

This is to Mr. Westinghouse's 1st post. Could you please explain more about why you support AC?

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William Stewart (JS)
2/2/2011 11:12:02 am

To Alonzo B. Cornell. I don't understand what you are trying to do when you say that using AC current will be Niagra Falls. How can using AC help save a waterfall. I believe that we use the energy from Niagra Falls. We don't give it energy.

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William Stewart (JS)
2/2/2011 11:15:47 am

Mr. Government Rep.. When you say that AC has a voltage that is more than ten times the voltage of DC, isn't there a very high safety risk. In the article, "Electricity Killed Him," a man was shocked and killed while working with AC equipment. You did not mention any of the safety risks of having such a high voltage in your 1st post. safety first...

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William Stewart (JS)
2/2/2011 11:19:21 am

William Dickinson, I see your strong support of DC. Even though I did say in my previous comment that AC is very dangerous, it is not like DC is not dangerous at all. Because of the short distances, there are many wires, which could lead to being shocked, regardless of the intensity, it will hurt none the less.

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William Morris (JS)
2/2/2011 11:22:07 am

Mr. George Westinghouse, you said in one of your posts that changing an AC power plant to DC would take time and money. Wouldn't it take just as much effort and money to change a DC power plant to an AC one if AC won? hmm?

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William Morris Stewart (JS)
2/2/2011 11:25:43 am

1st of all, exuse me for putting my middle name as my last name in my last post. Roger Kessler the Copper miner,you said that DC had high voltage. 110-220 volts is not terribly much for the terms in which we are speaking in. AC has a much much faster current than that. Please know what's fast and what's not...

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William Stewart (JS)
2/2/2011 11:29:27 am

In one of your posts, you did say that the relatively short distance that DC can travel brings small communities together, didn't you? Now, what if there are people in New York or other very large and populated cities, how would DC be at an advantage there. Ofcoarse, New York City's population is exponentially bigger than the population of a GROUP of small towns.

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William Stewart (JS)
2/2/2011 11:32:20 am

at Francis Jehl. ARE YOU A TIME TRAVELLER???? cell phones, what are those things, laptops, flashlights what kind of strange mind do you have??? The light bulb was created only very recently, I don't know of any flashing light!

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William Stewart (JS)
2/2/2011 11:36:13 am

At Nikola Tesla. You have a wonderful point when you say that you have to build new generators or power plants for every mile or so when using DC.

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William Stewart (JS)
2/2/2011 11:38:41 am

I would just like to say that the DC supporters are making some good points on how their wires are underground while AC would have to pay more to get them underground.

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William Stewart (JS)
2/2/2011 11:41:09 am

In responce to Francis Jehl's comment about getting DC power from coal and copper wrather from a river. First of all, copper and coal are not renewable, while the Earth's water supply goes round and round in a cycle.

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william Stewart (JS)
2/2/2011 11:44:15 am

Please esuse mi mideucre speling

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William Stewart (JS)
2/2/2011 11:46:45 am

Do you actually think that miners like their jobs. While mining, the cave could collapse and they could all die. There are probably more accidents from mining for coal and copper than there are from working with electricity.

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William Stewart (JS)
2/2/2011 11:50:45 am

George Westinghouse, you have made some great points in your fight for AC, however; you did admit that AC can kill a giant elephant, but you never had any proof that DC could. I'm not saying that DC can't, BUT I WANT PROOF!!

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William Stewart (JS)
2/2/2011 11:53:41 am

Thomas Edison, you are being quite unreasonable when you kill animals... IN COLD BLOOD!!! INHUMANITY!!!

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David Hill (DK)
2/3/2011 10:48:29 am

Mr. Westinghouse, following up on ur fact that AC travels farther than DC, could i plz have some statistics. Thanks

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David Hill (DK)
2/3/2011 10:52:57 am

Excuse me, Edison, correct? You say that AC is too deadly but you also have been using it to kill animals. Coincidence? I think not. you sir are a hipocrit.

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David Hill (DK)
2/3/2011 10:57:28 am

Francis Jehl, you say over 100 people have died from AC. But is the death of a couple idiots enough to bring down an entire system. I think not.

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David Hill (DK)
2/3/2011 11:00:08 am

Francis Jehl, What are laptops!!! you appear to be speaking another dialect, perhaps the click language of the mingli tribe in africa? Plz sir, you are a burly, intelligent man, SPEAK ENGLISH. Thx <3

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David Hill (DK)
2/3/2011 11:13:19 am

Westinghouse, you stated that miners should look for different jobs however often mining is the only job avaiable in an area. without this job, the miners could get poor and die of hunger or malaria. do you want innocent people in poverty, i would assume not.

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David Hill (DK)
2/3/2011 11:16:18 am

Westinghouse, pal, im not trying to disagree, but is killing animals in the interest of science and the welfare of our country cruel as you say. I do not know, but i think it is a question for you to consider.

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David Hill (DK)
2/3/2011 11:17:54 am

Cornell, is efficiancy and saving money really worth the death of innocent people. perhaps yes, perhaps not. PS- Cornell sounds like a great name to start a college

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William Stewart
2/3/2011 11:18:43 am

I have come to my decision, Mister Davin Hill, if you're on the blog could you please discuss with me

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David Hill (DK)
2/3/2011 11:19:14 am

Edison, i hope that you do realize that copper and coal mining are very dangerous jobs. Just a thought.

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william Stewart (JS)
2/3/2011 11:21:01 am

Mister Hill, have you made a decision??

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David Hill (DK)
2/3/2011 11:23:52 am

yes william i have. you go first

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William Stewart (JS)
2/3/2011 11:30:29 am

I have come to my decision.... It has been a pleasure to be the judge of such an amazing topic such as Electrical current. AC WINS!!!!!! Congradulations Mr. Westinghouse, you have made a great arguement in supporting Alternating Current. I'm sorry Edison. AC is more efficient, travels farther, and has a higher voltage. Although there is a risk involoved in this, the wires which cause this risk can be put under ground. It will supply jobs for the people at Niagra Falls. As for the miners, the coal miners are still in business. The copper miners are going to have to find a new job because I find DC not as good as AC. Thank You

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William Stewart (JS)
2/3/2011 11:31:22 am

Your decision now please

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David Hill (DK)
2/3/2011 11:37:03 am

Citizens of these United States. I have come to a decision. And guess what I vote for D..................nawt. I vote for AC because it is clearly a better power source. While DC has been said to be safer, i think that if we take necessary precautions and people use the common sense i know they have, AC can be just as safe. Also, AC can be produced hydroelectricly which would make large amounts of money. And although DC would create more jobs for copper and coal miners, mining is a dangerous job and will probably, nay definately, kill more people than AC. In addition, the whole process of using more material is irrelevant and a downright pathetic excuse as a fact. Most importantly, however, AC travels miles farther. Imagine having a power plant every 3 or 4 miles, that would be ridiculously expensive and flat out wasteful. AC can travel extremely far and has a higher voltage than DC, making it the obvious choice. Its as simple as this: if you choose to argue with me, you have no arguement, so keep quiet and accept the fact that AC is better. Down with Edison, its time for Westinghouse to take charge. LONG LIVE AC POWER!!!

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Edward Murphy Jr. (SZ)
2/3/2011 11:37:56 am

Mr. Dickson, AC wires are not a danger to people, if it is set up properly. It is also more efficent, because it has a higher voltage and can travel longer distances.

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Edward Murphy Jr. (SZ)
2/3/2011 11:41:16 am

Mr. Edison, wouldn't you agree that lound noisy generators at every street corner, would be a pitifull sight?

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Edward Murphy Jr. (SZ)
2/3/2011 11:45:04 am

Mr. Tesla, would you not agree with me that by switching to AC current, many of our hard working coal miner jobs would be lost?

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Edward Murphy Jr. (SZ)
2/3/2011 11:52:12 am

Mr. Westinghouse, I when you say they are MAINLY SAFE, that sounds to as if you THINK they are safe, I am not willing to put unsafe wires above the citizens of New York.

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Edward Murphy Jr. (SZ)
2/3/2011 12:12:24 pm

Mr. Edison if Mr. Westinghouse put time into safety of his workers, which I'm fairly positive he would, would AC not be more efficent and better for national purposes?

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Edward Murphy Jr. (SZ)
2/3/2011 12:22:47 pm

Dear citizens of New York and the United States of America, I, the senator of New York have come to a conclusion about this AC/DC Debate. The facts are stacked up against DC current. AC current is not only more efficent, with more voltage, but can also travel longer distances, reaching rural workers. Also in New York, Niagra Falls is using hydroelectric power, to produce AC current, which brings amny new jobs to New York. As for the coal miners, Mr. Westinghouse has proposed that he will open some mines of his own and use their power to generate AC current as well. DC current is a low voltage system and cannot reach far distanced without having a generator nearby. It is because of these facts that I have chosen to side with AC current!

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